Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@xxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 12:28 AM, Bjørn Mork <bjorn@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@xxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>
>>> So all MTP devices manufactured before that spec, and numerous produced
>>> after that spec came out, and several still being produced don't use the
>>> class code, i.e. they violate the spec. But we still have to detect them
>>> somehow.
>>
>> Yes, I feared so. But it still seemed likely that the non conforming
>> ones could be managed as a whitelist, if only most of the new ones were
>> using the standard class codes.
>
> I don't know if most of them do actually. Here is another device I
> bought just the other day, Philips GoGear Vibe:
>
> Bus 002 Device 008: ID 0471:20e5 Philips (or NXP)
> Device Descriptor:
> bLength 18
> bDescriptorType 1
> bcdUSB 2.00
> bDeviceClass 0 (Defined at Interface level)
> bDeviceSubClass 0
> bDeviceProtocol 0
> bMaxPacketSize0 64
> idVendor 0x0471 Philips (or NXP)
> idProduct 0x20e5
> bcdDevice 0.01
> iManufacturer 1 Philips
> iProduct 2 GoGear ViBE
> iSerial 5 400400009D0CDC190002DCE4AF289C19
> bNumConfigurations 2
> Configuration Descriptor:
> bLength 9
> bDescriptorType 2
> wTotalLength 39
> bNumInterfaces 1
> bConfigurationValue 1
> iConfiguration 3 USB/MSC LCD Player
> bmAttributes 0x80
> (Bus Powered)
> MaxPower 500mA
> Interface Descriptor:
> bLength 9
> bDescriptorType 4
> bInterfaceNumber 0
> bAlternateSetting 0
> bNumEndpoints 3
> bInterfaceClass 8 Mass Storage
> bInterfaceSubClass 6 SCSI
> bInterfaceProtocol 80 Bulk (Zip)
> iInterface 4 USB/MSC LCD Player
> Endpoint Descriptor:
> bLength 7
> bDescriptorType 5
> bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN
> bmAttributes 2
> Transfer Type Bulk
> Synch Type None
> Usage Type Data
> wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes
> bInterval 0
> Endpoint Descriptor:
> bLength 7
> bDescriptorType 5
> bEndpointAddress 0x02 EP 2 OUT
> bmAttributes 2
> Transfer Type Bulk
> Synch Type None
> Usage Type Data
> wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes
> bInterval 0
> Endpoint Descriptor:
> bLength 7
> bDescriptorType 5
> bEndpointAddress 0x83 EP 3 IN
> bmAttributes 3
> Transfer Type Interrupt
> Synch Type None
> Usage Type Data
> wMaxPacketSize 0x0040 1x 64 bytes
> bInterval 16
> Configuration Descriptor:
> bLength 9
> bDescriptorType 2
> wTotalLength 39
> bNumInterfaces 1
> bConfigurationValue 2
> iConfiguration 3 USB/MSC LCD Player
> bmAttributes 0x80
> (Bus Powered)
> MaxPower 100mA
> Interface Descriptor:
> bLength 9
> bDescriptorType 4
> bInterfaceNumber 0
> bAlternateSetting 0
> bNumEndpoints 3
> bInterfaceClass 8 Mass Storage
> bInterfaceSubClass 6 SCSI
> bInterfaceProtocol 80 Bulk (Zip)
> iInterface 4 USB/MSC LCD Player
> Endpoint Descriptor:
> bLength 7
> bDescriptorType 5
> bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN
> bmAttributes 2
> Transfer Type Bulk
> Synch Type None
> Usage Type Data
> wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes
> bInterval 0
> Endpoint Descriptor:
> bLength 7
> bDescriptorType 5
> bEndpointAddress 0x02 EP 2 OUT
> bmAttributes 2
> Transfer Type Bulk
> Synch Type None
> Usage Type Data
> wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes
> bInterval 0
> Endpoint Descriptor:
> bLength 7
> bDescriptorType 5
> bEndpointAddress 0x83 EP 3 IN
> bmAttributes 3
> Transfer Type Interrupt
> Synch Type None
> Usage Type Data
> wMaxPacketSize 0x0040 1x 64 bytes
> bInterval 16
> Device Qualifier (for other device speed):
> bLength 10
> bDescriptorType 6
> bcdUSB 2.00
> bDeviceClass 0 (Defined at Interface level)
> bDeviceSubClass 0
> bDeviceProtocol 0
> bMaxPacketSize0 64
> bNumConfigurations 2
> Device Status: 0x0000
> (Bus Powered)
>
> So two configurations, each with a USB mass storage
> interface right?
>
> Wrong!
>
> One of them is an MTP interface, and will respond to MTP traffic.
> I think the magic OS handshake make that come into play...
> So Linux erroneously tries to use MSC on it, and we have to
> use libusb_detach_kernel_driver() and then use the interface.
>
> And then it works.
>
> This type of misbehaviour is not uncommon, I just took some
> device at random, there are literally millions of these.
That may be. But I absolutely refuse thinking about the possibility of
some udev rule probing all mass storage devices just because of
completely broken devices like this one...
OK, filtering on 3 endpoint mass storage devices will eliminate most of
the false positives, but still. Ugly.
> (...)
> # Autoprobe vendor-specific, communication and PTP devices
> ENV{ID_MTP_DEVICE}!="1", ENV{MTP_NO_PROBE}!="1",
> ENV{COLOR_MEASUREMENT_DEVICE}!="1", ENV{libsane_matched}!="yes",
> ATTR{bDeviceClass}=="00|02|06|ef|ff", PROGRAM="mtp-probe
> /sys$env{DEVPATH} $attr{busnum} $attr{devnum}", RESULT=="1",
> SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", ENV{ID_MTP_DEVICE}="1", ENV{ID_MEDIA_PLAYER}="1"
I believe this rule is dangerously broad. It probes so many non MTP
devices that I honestly do not understand why you need to except any
device at all. Your config avoids probing a few whitelisted MTP devices
but ends up probing evey other type of USB device instead. That does
not make sense.
> So that rather horrible rule avoids probing:
>
> - Devices we just detected in the whitelist
> - Color measurement or scanner devices (these have been
> prone to errors...)
> - Then check only the classes we mentioned
Yes, but "only the classes we mentioned" includes *all* composite
devices out there. To me that seems completely unacceptable, but others
may disagree.
> So I guess you're suggesting another step, checking the interfaces?
IMHO, you should limit the probing to the devices which you have reason
to believe may support MTP. That is
- devices with one or more PTP interfaces
- possibly devices with 3 endpoint Mass Storage interfaces, like the
one you showed above
The rest will have to be witelisted based on pid:vid.
But this is my opinion, only..
>> Do you know if these early devices support the typical Microsoft
>> descriptors? I.e. the 0xee string descriptor with "MSFT100<code>"
>> and its friends?
>
> Almost all devices support this. (There are exceptions even to this.)
> So this is what we do as a last resort, if we can't figure it out
> some other way.
I do not understand why that has to be the last resort. I would expect
this method to be very reliable since Microsoft has been heavily
involved all the way here. It's an ugly non-standard method of course,
but being pragmatic we do have to use whatever method the vendors have
implemented and *tested*. Which most likely is what they have observed
som random Windows version doing.
> The problem appear when you ask a device which is not MTP
> for that descriptor, some of them just die, so I cannot do
> that.
Really? You ask for a string descriptor and the device dies? Won't
those devices also die if they are connected to a Windows system?
Bjørn
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