On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 12:05:08PM -0400, Alan Stern wrote: > On Wed, 6 Jun 2012, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 11:21:52AM -0400, Alan Stern wrote: > > > On Wed, 6 Jun 2012, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > > > > > > No sane compiler would change it to a byte-at-a-time store, but the > > > > compiler would nevertheless be within its rights to do so. And a quick > > > > review of certain LKML threads could easily cause anyone to question gcc's > > > > sanity. Furthermore, the compiler is permitted to make transformations > > > > like the following, which it might well do to save a branch: > > > > > > > > if (b) a = 0; > > > > a = 1; if (b) > > > > else a = 1; > > > > a = 0; > > > > > > The compiler would be forbidden if the original code were > > > > > > if (b) > > > ACCESS_ONCE(a) = 1; > > > else > > > ACCESS_ONCE(a) = 0; > > > > > > But if I remember correctly, the code snippet we were talking was more > > > like: > > > > > > if (ACCESS_ONCE(b)) > > > a = 1; > > > > > > Isn't this use of ACCESS_ONCE unnecessary? > > > > That would depend on what else is nearby. > > Here's the relevant part of the original patch: > > @@ -467,6 +473,12 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(driver_attach); > static void __device_release_driver(struct device *dev) > { > struct device_driver *drv; > + int idx; > + > + idx = srcu_read_lock(&driver_srcu); > + > + if (ACCESS_ONCE(device_shutdown_started)) > + goto exit; > > drv = dev->driver; > if (drv) { > @@ -494,6 +506,8 @@ static void __device_release_driver(struct device *dev) > dev); > > } > +exit: > + srcu_read_unlock(&driver_srcu, idx); > } In this case, the ACCESS_ONCE() prevents the compiler from speculatively executing the stuff following the "goto exit", which I freely admit is insane even for compiler writers. But the documentation benefits still stand. > > There are some limitations because volatile accesses are not allowed to > > move past "sequence points", but it would be possible to come up with > > similar examples. This sort of thing is why C1x has a memory model and > > why it allows variables to be designated as needing to be SMP-safe. > > Almost certainly the kernel won't use this facility. Or else it will > just require that _all_ global variables be SMP-safe. I will reserve judgment until after I see what effect requiring all globals to be SMP-safe has on code generation. ;-) Thanx, Paul -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html