Re: Ability to limit to 100mA and/or disable USB power entirely

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Somehow this does not go to the list.

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 1:43 AM, Matthew Dharm
<mdharm-usb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Anil Nair <anilcoll90@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 6:22 AM, Matthew Dharm
>> <mdharm-usb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 5:33 PM, James Haigh <james.r.haigh@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>> > But can a powered hub be told to restrict a specific port to 1 unit
>>> > load?
>>>
>>> >>No, a powered hub cannot be told such a thing.  The hub offers up +5V;
>>> >>it is up to the device to determine how much it will draw.
>>
>>
>>  What if during USB hub enumeration to the host we specify the power
>> requirements?
>>  that is, how much power the USB hub consumes  per port. Is such
>> a behavior possible?
>
>
> The hub tells the host (for informational purposes) how much power is
> available for each port.  The host has no control over this value.
>
>>   The pull-up register triggers USB detection, so if a USB is not detected
>> is it still consuming power? Can we recreate the USB not detecting as a
>> programming model?
>
> An un-detected device can still draw power.  Consider all those
> "goofy" devices, such as USB LED lights, or other non-intelligent
> devices that can charge off of a USB port.
>
> In fact, detection only works if power to the port is enabled.  If
> power was off, the pull-up resistor wouldn't do anything.
>
> In real-world, practical terms, if the device is plugged in, it can
> draw all the power it wants until the over-current protection circuit
> trips.  The host CPU could be completely crashed and this would still
> be the case.  There is no way to do what you want.
>
> Matt
>
>
> --
> Matthew Dharm
> Maintainer, USB Mass Storage driver for Linux
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