Hi Alan I'm going to have another go at this before the sun goes down, if I can. the run that I did yesterday stopped the damned inverter from working. If it had worked, then the wireshark trace should have been the same as the previous working wireshark trace. As this is a different box, I've got to get it in a consistent condition first. I thought that I'd enabled usb_snoop before grabbing that log. I'll get a stable test bed automated, so that I can be clear that it's done what I think it has and then come back with the readings. Tim On 14 Jan 2012, at 17:07, Alan Stern wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jan 2012, Tim Coote wrote: > >> On 13 Jan 2012, at 15:34, Alan Stern wrote: >> [snip] >>> >>> It may be something like usb_modeswitch, or a program invoked by a udev >>> rule. Or it could be a modem manager. >>> >>> Something that might help is to enable the usbfs_snoop module parameter >>> for usbcore before plugging in the device: >>> >>> echo 1 >/sys/module/usbcore/parameters/usbfs_snoop >>> >>> That will add a bunch of output to the system log, including the names >>> of programs that directly access USB devices. >> Here's what I got: >> Jan 14 10:50:49 pluto kernel: [ 4622.452049] usb 3-2: new full speed USB device number 2 using uhci_hcd >> Jan 14 10:50:49 pluto kernel: [ 4622.684080] usb 3-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0451, idProduct=3410 >> Jan 14 10:50:49 pluto kernel: [ 4622.684089] usb 3-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 >> Jan 14 10:50:49 pluto kernel: [ 4622.684097] usb 3-2: Product: TUSB3410 Boot Device >> Jan 14 10:50:49 pluto kernel: [ 4622.684102] usb 3-2: Manufacturer: Texas Instruments >> Jan 14 10:50:49 pluto kernel: [ 4622.684108] usb 3-2: SerialNumber: TUSB3410 >> Jan 14 10:50:50 pluto kernel: [ 4623.150995] USB Serial support registered for TI USB 3410 1 port adapter >> Jan 14 10:50:50 pluto kernel: [ 4623.151213] USB Serial support registered for TI USB 5052 2 port adapter >> Jan 14 10:50:50 pluto kernel: [ 4623.151255] ti_usb_3410_5052 3-2:1.0: TI USB 3410 1 port adapter converter detected >> Jan 14 10:50:51 pluto kernel: [ 4623.788052] usb 3-2: reset full speed USB device number 2 using uhci_hcd >> Jan 14 10:50:51 pluto kernel: [ 4623.918079] usb 3-2: device firmware changed >> Jan 14 10:50:51 pluto kernel: [ 4623.918117] usb 3-2: USB disconnect, device number 2 >> Jan 14 10:50:51 pluto kernel: [ 4623.918144] ti_usb_3410_5052: probe of 3-2:1.0 failed with error -5 >> Jan 14 10:50:51 pluto kernel: [ 4623.919413] usbcore: registered new interface driver ti_usb_3410_5052 >> Jan 14 10:50:51 pluto kernel: [ 4623.919420] ti_usb_3410_5052: v0.10:TI USB 3410/5052 Serial Driver >> Jan 14 10:50:51 pluto kernel: [ 4624.023049] usb 3-2: new full speed USB device number 3 using uhci_hcd >> Jan 14 10:50:51 pluto kernel: [ 4624.232076] usb 3-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0451, idProduct=3410 >> Jan 14 10:50:51 pluto kernel: [ 4624.232086] usb 3-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 >> Jan 14 10:50:51 pluto kernel: [ 4624.232094] usb 3-2: Product: TUSB3410 Boot Device >> Jan 14 10:50:51 pluto kernel: [ 4624.232100] usb 3-2: Manufacturer: Texas Instruments >> Jan 14 10:50:51 pluto kernel: [ 4624.232106] usb 3-2: SerialNumber: TUSB3410 >> Jan 14 10:50:51 pluto kernel: [ 4624.235195] ti_usb_3410_5052 3-2:1.0: TI USB 3410 1 port adapter converter detected >> Jan 14 10:50:51 pluto kernel: [ 4624.235223] ti_usb_3410_5052: probe of 3-2:1.0 failed with error -5 >> Jan 14 10:50:51 pluto kernel: [ 4624.239194] ti_usb_3410_5052 3-2:2.0: TI USB 3410 1 port adapter converter detected >> Jan 14 10:50:51 pluto kernel: [ 4624.239743] usb 3-2: TI USB 3410 1 port adapter converter now attached to ttyUSB0 > > That's all perfectly normal. Do you have a wireshark or usbmon trace > for this test? > >>> Also, if you unplug the device, reboot, and plug the device back in >>> then the system log may include the name of a driver module that was >>> automatically loaded to handle the device. >> the diff between lsmod of a cleanly booted machine and then plugging in the fully powered up Inverter is: >> < tcp_lp 2211 0 >> < ti_usb_3410_5052 21110 0 >> >> So, I'd guess that the offending driver is ti_usb_3410_5052. > > Yes. tcp_lp has to do with networking, no connection with this. > >> If I >> understand your description of the initiation process, that driver is >> being installed as a result of some other program that I've yet to >> track down. > > That program is udev. The driver is installed normally, just as any > other driver is installed when needed. > >> And dbus is a likely starting point for running the >> program, possibly related to tcp_lp (whatever that is, and I note >> that it's not dependant on the other driver). I think that >> ti_usb_3410_5052 does try to load firmware. > > Yes, it does. And it switches to config 2. But as far as I can tell, > it doesn't send anything else to the device (like those requests for > string descriptor 0xee) until the ttyUSB device is opened. > > dbus isn't your problem. Some other program must be trying to > communicate with the device. Did you enable the usbfs_snoop parameter > before collecting the log above? > > Alan Stern > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html