On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 03:29:34PM -0500, Alan Stern wrote: > On Thu, 5 Jan 2012, Dmitry Torokhov wrote: > > > > > I think pinning driver so that it can't be unregistered (and > > > > consequently module unload hangs) its a mis-feature. > > > :q> > > I suspect that references obtained from get_driver() aren't held very > > > long. However I haven't checked every case. > > > > Unless we stop exporting them we can not make any assumptions on how > > long they will be held - code is changing constantly. > > Something we need to watch out for: get_driver and put_driver are used > in a bunch of other places, unrelated to driver_attach. Here's what > I found: > > lib/dma-debug.c:173: drv = get_driver(dev->driver); > lib/dma-debug.c:188: put_driver(drv); > drivers/pci/xen-pcifront.c:596: if (get_driver(&pdrv->driver)) { > drivers/pci/xen-pcifront.c:626: put_driver(&pdrv->driver); > drivers/media/video/s5p-fimc/fimc-mdevice.c:348: put_driver(driver); > drivers/media/video/s5p-fimc/fimc-mdevice.c:356: put_driver(driver); > drivers/media/video/ivtv/ivtvfb.c:1296: put_driver(drv); > drivers/media/video/ivtv/ivtvfb.c:1313: put_driver(drv); > drivers/media/video/cx18/cx18-alsa-main.c:288: put_driver(drv); > drivers/media/video/s5p-tv/mixer_video.c:61: put_driver(drv); > drivers/s390/cio/ccwgroup.c:583: get_driver(&cdriver->driver); > drivers/s390/cio/ccwgroup.c:595: put_driver(&cdriver->driver); > drivers/s390/cio/device.c:1681: drv = get_driver(&cdrv->driver); > drivers/s390/cio/device.c:1687: put_driver(drv); > drivers/s390/net/smsgiucv_app.c:199: put_driver(smsgiucv_drv); > drivers/ssb/main.c:146: get_driver(&drv->drv); > drivers/ssb/main.c:153: put_driver(&drv->drv); > drivers/net/phy/phy_device.c:934: drv = get_driver(phydev->dev.driver); > drivers/net/phy/phy_device.c:975: put_driver(dev->driver); > > I don't think any of those calls actually accomplish anything, but it's > hard to be certain. Some of them appear to be futile attempts to > prevent the driver from being unregistered or unloaded, others are > there simply to drop the reference taken by driver_find(). > > In a few of them it's obvious that the driver can't be unregistered > while the critical section runs, but in the others I can't tell. On > the other hand, if a critical section can race with unregistration > then the code is buggy now. > > What do you think? I think we need to audit them and decide on case-by-case basis. For example drivers/s390/cio/device.c is completely nonsensical: it takes a reference on a driver that is passed as argument before calling driver_find_device(). But if passed driver was valid before we called get_driver it won't become any more valid afterwards and it should not disappear either. drivers/s390/cio/ccwgroup.c - calls are useless; Authors of drivers/net/phy/phy_device.c had their reservations: /* Make sure the driver is held. * XXX -- Is this correct? */ drv = get_driver(phydev->dev.driver); However it is in phydev_probe() and I hope our device core takes care of not destroying drivers in the middle of binding to a device. drivers/ssb/main.c seems like needs some protection but does it incorrectly as we do not wait for drivers to drop all references before unloading modules. Thanks. -- Dmitry -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html