On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 11:29:56AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > But what the driver *should* be doing is to load the firmware at > device open time (NOT at "driver load time" - because that can and > does happen too early too, for the case of built-in drivers!) and > simply keep the firmware around in the case of a suspend/resume event, > so that it doesn't have to re-load it off a disk (or network, or > whatever) that hasn't been resumed yet! That doesn't work for the isight firmware loader - there's nothing for userspace to open until the device has had the firmware loaded, at which point it detaches and reattaches as a UVC device. The code could be merged into the UVC driver and a fake v4l device exposed, but even then you'd still need to deal with the underlying usb_device suddenly changing under you. So for this specific case, I'd like to track down why the behaviour has changed - if the device was previously maintaining state over suspend and now isn't then that's something that's broken, but if it's just that some ordering has changed and now it's losing a race, I'll need to fix it in the driver. One option would be to do away with the kernelspace loader entirely and push it out to a udev helper, or alternatively just have the driver stash the firmware all the time. -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html