On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 04:03:09PM +0000, Mark Brown wrote: > On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 04:54:03PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > > On Friday 11 March 2011, Mark Brown wrote: > > > > It's arguable if this stuff is broken at all, from a hardware design > > > point of view it's perfectly reasonable and if you're shipping volumes > > > in the millions very small savings add up to interesting numbers easily. > > > It may be reasonable if you don't expect anyone to connect the > > device to an ethernet port, but in that case you could save much > > more by removing the ethernet chip and the socket along with the > > eeprom. > > > Really, any machine without a fixed MAC address is a huge pain > > for users, just google for "pandaboard mac address" to see > > how much work this has caused people. > > I'm not familiar with the Pandaboard but most of the devices I've worked > with that do this have unique MAC addresses but they store in other > locations on the device (typically in flash). > > Like I say, it's not just MAC addresses that can need configuring this > way - it can be other random "you're wired up this way" type > information that would normally be figured out from the USB IDs. And all of that should be done in userspace, like all other device names, I still fail to see what is so different here from any other type of system. thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html