RE: USB HUB reset within FTDI_SIO is needed

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Hi, 

> Minor nit, patches should be in '-u' format so we can read 
> them better, and apply them.
> 
> Also, can you break out the 'new device id' portion of this 
> patch, and resend it with a proper signed-off-by: to me so 
> that I can apply it to the kernel tree so you don't have to 
> keep changing that part of the driver?  There's no reason 
> that can't go into the kernel now.

Ok, will do that.

> > (below 100) fails like this. And it complicates the case that even 
> > swapping printers do not help, so we could not figure out a better 
> > solution than this.
> 
> Like someone stated, this might be a hub problem.  Also, if 
> you do find a broken system, is it usually the host that 
> always has it, as you say switching the printer fixes the issue.

Sorry, might have been not quite clear. Swapping the printers do NOT
help.

> And if so, can you run 'usbmon' to get a trace of what is 
> happening on the wire to see what is really going on here?

We are currently under a discussion with the customer to see whether
we can get a clear statement about:
a.) Whether the issue is reproducible with a certain machine
b.) If yes can we get the machine

Cheers,
t.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg KH [mailto:greg@xxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 3:43 PM
> To: Hársszegi Tibor
> Cc: linux-usb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: USB HUB reset within FTDI_SIO is needed
> 
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 07:20:56AM +0100, H?rsszegi Tibor wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > our company uses a FTDI_SIO based USB 2.0 printer.
> > This printer has "ill habits" so that sometimes it gets 
> stuck and no 
> > longer replies to usb_control_msg()-es.
> > We had a "fix" for this behaviour to change 2 USB related 
> modules within the Linux kernel.
> > (Check attachment, those are for the OpenSuse 11.1 
> 2.6.27.7-pae kernel). 
> > 
> > 1.) FTDI_SIO, we changed this to "overrule" the regular
> > usb_control_msg() with our own wrapper. Within this wrapper 
> we counted 
> > within 60 second the number of unacked usb_control_msg()s 
> and if that reached 10, we restarted the USB HUB owning our 
> printer (we had to kickstart the HUB instead of the printer 
> as restarting the printer didn't help).
> 
> Minor nit, patches should be in '-u' format so we can read 
> them better, and apply them.
> 
> Also, can you break out the 'new device id' portion of this 
> patch, and resend it with a proper signed-off-by: to me so 
> that I can apply it to the kernel tree so you don't have to 
> keep changing that part of the driver?  There's no reason 
> that can't go into the kernel now.
> 
> 
> > 2.) HUB.C, To be able to restart the HUB we had to change 
> this as well 
> > to make usb_kick_khubd (as that was used within FTDI to restart the
> > HUB) public.
> > 
> > Both of these changes seemd to flawlessly work without full kernel 
> > recompilation as both of the affected codes were built by 
> default as 
> > "modules" into the OpenSuse kernels.
> > 
> > But it has changed in 11.2 because of USB/boot speed-up purposes.
> > Can any of you propose any alternative solution to our 
> problem so that we :
> > 
> > * don't need to do a full kernel recompilation, thus we can use the 
> > plain, vanilla kernel delivered on the standard 11.2 distro
> 
> We can work to find the root cause of this problem, yes.
> 
> > * the changes still work as our patches work now, i.e. without any 
> > kind of user interaction, automatically we can kickstart a 
> given USB 
> > HUB which owns a given device (no clue, but maybe we could sniff 
> > /proc/bus/usb/devices and do a USBDEVFS_RESET on the owner of our 
> > printer (on the HUB)?) Must highlight that naturally we are not 
> > sticking to kernel solution, any user space solution would do the 
> > trick if that behaves the same way.
> > 
> > * Also have to mention that some might think that first we 
> should fix 
> > the printer if that gets frozen is certain circumstances. Sadly the 
> > situation is not that crystal-clear, as we have cca. 10 thousand 
> > Uniboard based printers deployed to different customers and 
> only a few 
> > (below 100) fails like this. And it complicates the case that even 
> > swapping printers do not help, so we could not figure out a better 
> > solution than this.
> 
> Like someone stated, this might be a hub problem.  Also, if 
> you do find a broken system, is it usually the host that 
> always has it, as you say switching the printer fixes the issue.
> 
> And if so, can you run 'usbmon' to get a trace of what is 
> happening on the wire to see what is really going on here?
> 
> thanks,
> 
> greg k-h
> 

 
 
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