Hi, Got reponse from Oren that B0 BarlowRidge controller is not longer supported, and the last thunderbolt firmware we released for B0 is 16.3 , from here: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/secure/design/confidential/software-kits/kit-details.html?kitId=821065&wapkw=barlow%20ridge%20nvm%20b0 So @Aaron, please try with that one. Thanks ! On Sun, Jan 26, 2025 at 06:12:18PM +0200, Gil Fine wrote: > Hi, > > + Oren > > On Sun, Jan 26, 2025 at 07:53:47AM +0200, Mika Westerberg wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 05:05:40PM -0600, Aaron Rainbolt wrote: > > > On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 15:20:22 +0200 > > > Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 10:41:25AM -0600, Aaron Rainbolt wrote: > > > > > This is production hardware (specifically Clevo's X370SNW1-G and > > > > > X370SNV1-G laptops), available for purchase from Sager, XOTICPC, > > > > > Schenker, likely many other resellers, and our own website > > > > > at https://kfocus.org/spec/spec-m2.html (with a tool that allows users > > > > > to work around the bug). The firmware is baked into the hardware > > > > > provided to us by our ODM, and for the sake of stability we do not > > > > > modify any firmware on the machines with the exception of applying > > > > > BIOS updates provided to us directly by the ODM. They appear to get > > > > > their firmware directly from Clevo. > > > > > > > > Okay thanks. > > > > > > > > > We have requested an updated BIOS from the ODM. If one is > > > > > available, we will upgrade and run the tests again. > > > > > > > > Yes, I hope you can get the firmwares. The one you have now is not > > > > "production quality" firmare so you should not really have that there > > > > in the first place and Clevo should definitely provide you an > > > > upgrade. Note this is separate from the BIOS. But your BIOS has issue > > > > too regarding the USB4 power contract that is required by Microsoft > > > > so I would expect that you should get that one upgraded too. > > > > > > > > The patch I shared earlier should deal with all the other cases except > > > > that weird one where we do not seem to get unplugs (and the resource > > > > is available) which is not how the firmware is expected to work. I was > > > > planning to submit it upstream after some more validation on our end, > > > > probably afer v6.13-rc1 is released. I'll CC you. > > > > > > > > If/when you get the new firmare I would definitely appreciate if your > > > > folks could give it a try. > > > > > > Hi Mika, sorry for the very late follow-up, been busy with other work > > > stuff. > > > > No worries. > > > > > We contacted the ODM to get newer firmware. They contacted Clevo, who > > > told them that the Barlow Ridge chip in these machines is the B0 > > > revision. According to them, the latest firmware available for the B0 > > > revision is 14.6; they also state that the 56.x firmware is for the B1 > > > revision and is incompatible. > > > > > > Is it possible that the problem is that the driver is written > > > specifically for the B1 revision and only partially works with the B0 > > > revision? > > > > The driver support is written for USB4 v2 not specifically for certain > > Barlow Ridge silicon stepping. B0 has issues that B1 fixes but I'm not sure > > if they are related to this one. My reference host controller is actually > > B0 and it is running the 56.x firmware IIRC so not incompatible. > > > > @Gil, can you verify this? > > Actually we didn't try use latest BR firmware on old HW like B0 so can't tell > if all BR features expected to work on B0, but let me add Oren, the contact > person for these. > > @Oren, Is B0 BarlowRidge is still officially supported? > I mean do we release newer NVM versions to Clevo for B0 BR? > > -- > Thanks, > Gil -- Thanks, Gil