On Thu, 31 Oct 2024 16:22:14 +0200, Mathias Nyman wrote: > Ok, good to know, then using flag is not enough. > > Using a retry timeout for failed stop endpoint commands also sounds > good to me. > It has a slight downside of a possible 100ms aggressive 'Stop > Endpoint' retry loop in cases where endpoint was stopped earlier for > some other reason. Waiting 100ms is rare. It happens in cases when the original bad workaround would retry infinitely, and this bug still hasn't been reported by users for half a year. But I triggered it with patched drivers or by stopping a device with flaky cable, so it can happen. EP_RESTARTING flag could be used to avoid wasting 100ms in those cases, but I found that I can predict its value in advance while queuing the command, without adding noise to unrelated code. That was the STOP_CMD_REDUNDANT patch, and now I'm trying to just avoid queuing such redundant commands at all. And timeout if that fails. I found this "redundant" prediction very accurate and pointless commands are practically eliminated. Correctness is guaranteed by ring_ep_doorbell() always starting an endpoint with pending URBs if a few ep_state flags aren't set, and always being called when any of those flags are cleared. Only two exceptions are known: 1. The "transferless tx events", which may trigger a hard reset without Set Deq. In this case ring_ep_doorbell() isn't called. 2. The bizarre ASM3142 ifconfig up/down issue, which crashes the whole bus and really looks like a hardware bug. Generally, all cases of failing to restart an active endpoint are very user-visible and problematic on their own right, so a bit of extra delay wouldn't be the worst problem at this point, I hope. > • When software rings the Doorbell of an endpoint to transition it > from the Stopped to Running state, it should update its image of EP > State to Running. Making this assumption is exactly why we have problems, because the start/stop race is tricky for hardware and some chips clearly don't behave in such simple manner as suggested. Regards, Michal