Re: [Bugme-new] [Bug 14778] New: USB (intel chipset) with external mass storage extremely slow or blocking

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On Tue, 22 Dec 2009, Hadmut Danisch wrote:

> That particular usb pendrive was working for some time on my main
> desktop computer. I had created an encrypted device (without partition
> table, directly onto /dev/sdx) and put  an ext3 filesystem inside. I
> could write some amount of data (some months ago) and then the file
> system hung, but I didn't care much about. Some weeks later I tried to
> create a new file system, and that's where the writing problems began.
> 
> Now I had that particular writing problems with this USB pendrive on
> five different computers, alle with the latest Ubuntu. An
> mkfs.ext2 /dev/sdx failed on all machines the very same way.

You didn't try mkdosfs, did you?

> But then, when I used the pendrive in a Windows machine, I could easily
> format and use it with Windows. So the pendrive definitely is not broken
> - at least not completely.
> 
> Surprisingly, after formatting it with Windows with a fat filesystem, it
> worked on all those Ubuntu machines, now I can write the files (onto
> fat). And now, the mkfs.ext2 /dev/sdx works as well (what did not
> terminate formerly). And even the large file can now be copied onto the
> stick.
> 
> 
> 
> My guess is that the internal controller of the USB pendrive is somehow
> incompatible with Linux, encryption or ext2 filesystem. It is known that
> flash memory cards and drives have internal controllers that continuosly
> replace memory segments with each other to have them worn down equally.
> To do so, some of these controllers are able to "understand" dos/fat
> filesystems and use them as part of their strategy.
> 
> I assume that I ran that controller with an encrypted filesystem into
> some error mode. Or hit some memory segments that are broken (it's a
> 16GB drive), where reformatting with vfat remixed the page order of
> those segments.

That certainly is possible.

> I am not sure whether this is a problem of the USB drive (or its
> controller) or the Linux machine.

I'd guess it's not a Linux problem.  However the only way to be certain 
is to mess up the pendrive again in the same way and then see if a 
Linux computer can successfully reinstall a VFAT filesystem.

If you don't want to bother with further testing, you can just close
out the bug report.

> Best regards (and merry Christmas)

Merry Christmas to you.

Alan Stern

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