On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 02:14:37AM +0900, Vincent MAILHOL wrote: > On Wed. 22 Jun 2022 at 02:02, Greg Kroah-Hartman > <gregkh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 01:40:10AM +0900, Vincent MAILHOL wrote: > > > On Wed 22 Jun 2022 at 01:15, Alan Stern <stern@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 12:55:46AM +0900, Vincent MAILHOL wrote: > > > > > On Wed. 22 Jun 2022 at 00:13, Alan Stern <stern@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 11:59:16PM +0900, Vincent MAILHOL wrote: > > > > > > > I (probably wrongly) assumed that urb::transfer_buffer_length was the > > > > > > > allocated length and urb::actual_length was what was actually being > > > > > > > transferred. Right now, I am just confused. Seems that I need to study > > > > > > > a bit more and understand the real purpose of > > > > > > > urb::transfer_buffer_length because I still fail to understand in > > > > > > > which situation this can be different from the allocated length. > > > > > > > > > > > > urb->transfer_buffer_length is the amount of data that the driver wants > > > > > > to send or expects to receive. urb->actual_length is the amount of data > > > > > > that was actually sent or actually received. > > > > > > > > > > > > Neither of these values has to be the same as the size of the buffer -- > > > > > > but they better not be bigger! > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. Now things are a bit clearer. > > > > > I guess that for the outcoming URB what I proposed made no sense. For > > > > > incoming URB, I guess that most of the drivers want to set > > > > > urb::transfer_buffer once for all with the allocated size and never > > > > > touch it again. > > > > > > > > Not necessarily. Some drivers may behave differently from the way you > > > > expect. > > > > > > Yes, my point is not to generalise. Agree that there are exceptions. > > > > > > > > Maybe the patch only makes sense of the incoming URB. Would it make > > > > > sense to keep it but with an additional check to trigger a dmesg > > > > > warning if this is used on an outcoming endpoint and with additional > > > > > comment that the URB_FREE_COHERENT requires urb::transfer_buffer to be > > > > > the allocated size? > > > > > > > > Well, what really matters is that the transfer_buffer_length value has > > > > to be the same as the size of the buffer. If that's true, the direction > > > > of the URB doesn't matter. So yes, that requirement would definitely > > > > need to be documented. > > > > > > > > On the other hand, there wouldn't be any way to tell automatically if > > > > the requirement was violated. > > > > > > ACK. That's why I said "add comment" and not "check". > > > > > > > And since this function could only be > > > > used with some of the URBs you're interested in, does it make sense to > > > > add it at all? The other URBs would still need their buffers to be > > > > freed manually. > > > > > > The rationale is that similarly to URB_FREE_BUFFER, this would be > > > optional. This is why I did not propose to reuse > > > URB_NO_TRANSFER_DMA_MAP but instead add a new flag. I propose it > > > because I think that many drivers can benefit from it. > > > > > > More than that, the real concern is that many developers forget to > > > free the DMA allocated memory. c.f. original message of this thread: > > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-can/alpine.DEB.2.22.394.2206031547001.1630869@thelappy/T/#m2ef343d3ee708178b1e37be898884bafa7f49f2f > > > > > > And the usual fix requires to create local arrays to store references > > > to the transfer buffer and DMA addresses. > > > > Why not just free the memory in the urb completion function that is > > called when it is finished? > > I thought it was a bad thing to call usb_free_coherent() in the > completion function and that the best practice was to allocate all the > DMA memory when opening the device, reuse them during runtime and free > everything when closing the device. Yes, that is true, but as you are finding out here, doing fire-and-forget urbs with coherent memory aren't the easiest to use. Which makes me ask, why do you have to use this type of memory for this driver? Why is it special to require it? > Especially, correct me if I am wrong, but isn't there a risk to > trigger below warning if calling usb_free_coherent() in an IRQ context > (which is the case in the completion function)? > https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v5.18/source/kernel/dma/mapping.c#L526 Ah, so your idea here wouldn't work either as if you did a fire-and-forget urb with this type of buffer, the memory would be freed in the urb callback in irq context. So this might not be the interface you want to use at all here. thanks, greg k-h
