+Dmitry Torokhov Hi Greg, Oliver, Thanks for taking a look. On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 10:31 PM Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 03:48:23PM -0700, Rajat Jain wrote: > > If a usb device sits below a removable hub, mark the device also as > > removable. This helps with devices inserted on a standard removable hub or > > also thunderbold docks, to be shown as removable. > > > > Signed-off-by: Rajat Jain <rajatja@xxxxxxxxxx> > > --- > > drivers/usb/core/hub.c | 7 +++++++ > > 1 file changed, 7 insertions(+) > > Combined with the previous patch, you are now marking all devices that > happen to be attached to a root hub that is on a thunderbolt controller > as removable. So all USB devices inside of a docking station are now > removable? With this patch, yes that was my intent. I think what we are debating here is should the "removable" attribute imply possibility of removal from "the system" or just the "local immediate box" (e.g. thunderbolt dock). In my mind, the removable property was analogous to imply an "external device", i.e a device that may be removed from the system, perhaps as a result of its parent devices being removed from the system. I guess this definition doesn't match what you believe it should be? [Oliver says] > frankly, why? You are needlessly throwing away information about where > in the tree > removal can happen. I believe you are referring to multi level USB hubs and feel that "removable" should be set only for devices that hang off a port, and not for children of such device. I wouldn't necessarily disagree, pending the discussion above (although I think it applies to this patch only, I think the previous patch still provides value without throwing away any info). As a data point, I notice that with my USB hub, the USB device representing the hub is correctly marked as "removable", however a USB device I insert into the USB hub, is shown as "unknown". I don't know if this is the behavior with all USB hubs or just because my USB hub has a bug. But my patch helps solve this issue and makes the device show up as "removable". Thanks Rajat > > What type of devices did you test this series out with? And again, what > problem are you trying to solve? > > thanks, > > greg k-h