On 20-12-21 11:25:51, Alan Stern wrote: > On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 05:37:29AM +0000, Peter Chen wrote: > > On 20-12-16 10:51:44, Alan Stern wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 02:56:20AM +0000, Peter Chen wrote: > > > > On 20-12-15 10:55:41, Alan Stern wrote: > > > > > You've got the general idea. > > > > > > > > > > Normally ports are owned by the hub driver. If one of them loses power > > > > > for some reason (for example, the user turns it off), the hub driver > > > > > will turn the power back on. This is because the hub driver wants > > > > > ports to be powered at all times unless they are in runtime suspend. > > > > > > > > > > The way to prevent the hub driver from managing the port power is to > > > > > claim the port for the user, by issuing the USBDEVFS_CLAIM_PORT ioctl. > > > > > Also, when that is done, the kernel wno't try to manage a device > > > > > attached to the port -- that is, the kernel won't automatically install > > > > > a configuration for a new device and it won't try to probe drivers for > > > > > the device's interfaces if the user installs a config. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alan, we have several use cases for power switchable HUB, one of the use > > > > cases is USB port is managed by kernel (eg, needs mass storage > > > > class), but needs to toggle port power, is it reasonable we add a sysfs > > > > entry to support it? > > > > > > Can you give more information about your use cases? After all, if the > > > port power is turned off then the port can't possibly handle > > > mass-storage devices -- or anything else. > > > > Sorry, Alan. Due to holiday season, the U.S team doesn't reply me the > > use case. I think the basic use cases are emulate the hot-plug test for > > USB devices, the USB devices could be Flash Drive on market or DUT (Device > > Under test) for the same controller works at device mode. Assume one > > typical test case: > > > > Plug in Flash Drive at port 1-1.1 during the boots up: > > > > while (1) { > > - Check Flash Drive is there (eg, cat /proc/partitions) > > - Turn port 1 at 1-1 off > > - Check Flash Drive is gone > > - Turn port 1 at 1-1 on > > } > > Okay. This can be done as follows: > > while (1) { > - Check Flash Drive is there (eg, cat /proc/partitions) > - Claim port 1 on 1-1 > - Turn port 1 at 1-1 off > - Check Flash Drive is gone > - Release port 1 on 1-1 > - Turn port 1 at 1-1 on > - Delay for 10 seconds (time for device probing) > } > > > > > On the other hand, if the port is managed by the kernel then the kernel > > > (not the user) should be responsible for deciding whether or not to > > > turn off the port's power. > > > > > > If there's some real reason for turning the port power off for an > > > extended period of time, the user can claim the port and turn off the > > > power. Then later on, the user can release the port and turn the power > > > back on. > > > > > > > Yes, I think this is one of the use cases. We want power power control > > at one application (A), but different with our test application(B), it means > > if the user claims the port, and power off using A, then the A will end. > > After the B finished running, A runs again for power on, but at this time, > > the port owner has changed. > > Yes, that won't work. If you want to keep the port power turned off > then you have to keep the usbfs device file open -- which means your > program A must not end and then restart. > > (Acutally, I'm not certain about that. If you claim a port, turn off > its power, and then release the port, I don't remember whether the hub > driver will then turn the power back on right away. It might not. > But in any case, it isn't good programming to release a port without > turning its power back on.) > > Can A be rewritten so that it doesn't end when B is running? > Of course. I think the similar use case like below: Program A (Port power control program) while (1) { - Wait "turn off" command; - Claim requested port; - Turn off requested port; - Wait "turn on" command; - Turn on requested port - Release requested port; }; Program B actually is a script: { while [ "$i" -lt 10000 ]; do - Check Flash Drive is there (eg, cat /proc/partitions); - Send "turn off" command; - Wait 5 seconds, and check if Flash Drive has gone; - Send "turn on" command; - i=`expr $i + 1`; done terminate program A; }; I need to find communication solution between program A and script B. Or would you have any suggestions to design such kinds of test case? -- Thanks, Peter Chen