On Thursday 23 July 2009 17:34:52 ext Dan Williams wrote: > There are any number of devices that expose only one AT port (which of > course gets used by PPP for data) and then a proprietary port. The > proprietary port usually uses a custom USB protocol that can also handle > SMS, status, RSSI, etc while the AT/PPP port is being used by ppp. > > So if that's the case for phonet, maybe you just want to provide either > (a) documentation of the setup/status/sms/etc protocols, or (b) a shim > library implementation for them that handles communication with the > device itself. Eventually, Ofono should get the missing bits for GPRS-via-Phonet. > But IMHO, the call setup stuff is probably better done from userspace. I was referring to cellular data connectivity. Indeed, I wouldn't propose Netlink for network selection and circuit-switched services like SMS or voice calls :) > It's a really hard API to abstract. I guess you could write a netlink > API for it like we have for 802.11, but with GSM/CDMA the standards are > so widely ignored that it's just going to be impossible to get a stable > kernel API for anything like this. Really, you only need a way to: - create a device, e.g. like IPIP tunnel devices, - set it up: access point name, and optionally username and password, - bring it up, get IP and DNS configurations from the network, - watch for context suspend events: IFF_NOCARRIER could do that, - and eventually tear down. In fact, it seems much simpler than 802.11. Well OK, I ignored "details" such as secondary contexts and quality of service. -- Rémi Denis-Courmont Nokia Devices R&D, Maemo Software, Helsinki -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html