Re: Exporting USB device ids from the kernel

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On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 6:57 PM Greg Kroah-Hartman
<gregkh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 06:42:25PM +0100, Andrey Konovalov wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 5:40 PM Greg Kroah-Hartman
> > <gregkh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 05:12:34PM +0100, Andrey Konovalov wrote:
> > > > On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 9:49 AM Greg Kroah-Hartman
> > > > <gregkh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 05:10:26PM +0100, Andrey Konovalov wrote:
> > > > > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 4:44 PM Alan Stern <stern@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, 15 Nov 2019, Andrey Konovalov wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Greg and Alan,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > For USB fuzzing it would be nice to be able to export usb_device_id
> > > > > > > > structs from the kernel to facilitate the fuzzer with generating USB
> > > > > > > > descriptors that match to actual drivers. The same is required for
> > > > > > > > hid_device_id structs, since those are matched separately by the
> > > > > > > > usbhid driver (are there other cases like this?).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Currently I have a hacky patch [1] that walks all drivers for USB and
> > > > > > > > HID buses and then prints all device ids for those drivers into the
> > > > > > > > kernel log. Those are manually parsed and built into the fuzzer [2]
> > > > > > > > and then used to generate USB descriptors [3].
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There are so many different flags for those id structures, parsing and
> > > > > > > understanding them must be quite difficult.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm thinking of making a proper patch that will add a debugfs entry
> > > > > > > > like usb/drivers (and usb/hid_drivers?), that can be read to get
> > > > > > > > USB/HID device ids for all loaded drivers. Would that be acceptable?
> > > > > > > > Or should I use some other interface to do that?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I can't think of a better way to get the information from a running
> > > > > > > kernel.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There is another possibility, though.  If the drivers are built as
> > > > > > > modules, the information is already available to userspace tools via
> > > > > > > depmod.  You could get it from the modules.dep.bin file.  This has the
> > > > > > > advantage that it will work even for drivers that aren't currently
> > > > > > > loaded.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is the same thing Greg mentions above, right?
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Would this work for drivers that are built into the kernel (as =y)?
> > > > >
> > > > > No, sorry.  There has not been any need to export that information to
> > > > > userspace as nothing has ever needed that.
> > > > >
> > > > > The only reason we exported that at all was to allow modules to
> > > > > auto-load to handle the device.
> > > >
> > > > OK, I see. Ideally we would want to support both builtin drivers and
> > > > modules. I'll then implement the approach with exporting the ids
> > > > through debugfs. I'll send a patch once I have it.
> > >
> > > Note, this is part of the build/link process (see what
> > > MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE() does), so I don't know if you will be able to do
> > > it in debugfs very easily.
> >
> > Take a look at the patch I've linked [1]. It iterates all drivers on
> > the USB bus via bus_for_each_drv and then iterates both builtin ids
> > (in usb_device_id_dump_static) and the ones that come from modules (in
> > usb_device_id_dump_dynamic) (at least that's how I understand the code
> > that I've written :). The patch just does that in a weird place and
> > prints ids to kernel log. It seems it should be easy to change it to
> > do the same in a read() handler of a debugfs entry.
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/google/syzkaller/blob/master/tools/syz-usbgen/usb_ids.patch
>
> Iterating over all of that is a mess, why not stick with the stuff we
> already are generating for modules to use?
>
> > > Why not put it in /sys/module/MODULE_NAME/ ?
> >
> > I can look into this, if that's what you prefer. In this case we'll
> > need to iterate over all dirs in /sys/module to find the ones that
> > export some USB ids. Seems less convenient than a single debugfs file
> > approach, but would also work AFAIU.
>
> It could be done at build time, like the MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE() logic
> works, and that way you get it for all bus types, not just USB.  And
> this is a module issue really, right?  Yes, the mapping from module name
> to driver name is not always the same, but it should be close.

I've tried to change MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE to always emit a device table
regardless of whether a module is being compiled or not. This doesn't
work just like that, because many modules use the same name for the
device table, and I get linking errors. Is this the approach you had
in mind? What would you suggest to do with name clash issue?

>
> Otherwise, something in the driver core would be good to do, again, that
> way you get this for all busses/drivers.

Could you point me to some source files where this would go into?
AFAIU with this we'll still need to implement a pretty printer for
each device table type, right?



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