On Tue, Oct 01, 2019 at 05:19:35PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > On Tue, Oct 01, 2019 at 06:07:34PM +0300, Mika Westerberg wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 01, 2019 at 04:53:54PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 01, 2019 at 04:09:05PM +0300, Mika Westerberg wrote: > > > > On Tue, Oct 01, 2019 at 02:47:48PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > > > > > > - Thunderbolt Controller driver. This driver is required if you > > > > > > - want to hotplug Thunderbolt devices on Apple hardware or on PCs > > > > > > - with Intel Falcon Ridge or newer. > > > > > > + USB4 (Thunderbolt) driver. USB4 is the public spec based on > > > > > > + Thunderbolt 3 protocol. This driver is required if you want to > > > > > > + hotplug Thunderbolt and USB4 compliant devices on Apple > > > > > > + hardware or on PCs with Intel Falcon Ridge or newer. > > > > > > > > > > Wait, did "old" thunderbolt just get re-branded as USB4? > > > > > > > > Not but the driver started supporting USB4 as well :) > > > > > > > > USB4 is pretty much public spec of Thunderbolt 3 but with some > > > > differences in register layouts (this is because Thunderbolt uses some > > > > vendor specific capabilities which are now moved to more "standard" > > > > places). > > > > > > Ok, then we need to rename the Kconfig option as well, otherwise no one > > > will "know" that this changed, so they will not be prompted for it. > > > > > > > > Because if I have an "old" laptop that needs Thunderbolt support, how am > > > > > I going to know it is now called USB4 instead? > > > > > > > > Well the Kconfig option tries to have both names there: > > > > > > > > tristate "USB4 (Thunderbolt) support" > > > > > > > > and then > > > > > > > > USB4 (Thunderbolt) driver. USB4 is the public spec based on > > > > Thunderbolt 3 protocol. This driver is required if you want to hotplug > > > > Thunderbolt and USB4 compliant devices on Apple hardware or on PCs > > > > with Intel Falcon Ridge or newer. > > > > > > > > and the Kconfig option is still CONFIG_THUNDERBOLT. I know this is > > > > confusing but I don't have better ideas how we can advertise both. I > > > > borrowed this "format" from firewire. > > > > > > CONFIG_USB4 instead? > > > > OK, but does that break existing .configs? I mean if you have already > > CONFIG_THUNDERBOLT in your .config/defconfig does it now just get > > dropped silently? > > Yup. And then you get asked about CONFIG_USB4 I see. > > For example firewire has CONFIG_FIREWIRE even though the "standard" name > > is IEEE 1394. I was thinking maybe we can do the same for > > USB4/Thunderbolt? > > It comes down to the what do you want to do for the next 20+ years, > explain to people that "to get USB4 support, enable CONFIG_THUNDERBOLT"? That's a very good point indeed :)