Re: usbfs, claiming entire usb devices

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On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Oliver Neukum <oliver@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 5. Mai 2009 19:01:09 schrieb Alan Stern:
>> On Tue, 5 May 2009, Oliver Neukum wrote:
>> > This is not quite so simple. If you hand over a port, you cause problems.
>> > That doesn't mean you shouldn't do it, but you have to solve the
>> > problems. Immediately I can think of:
>> >
>> > - overcurrent events
>> > - the power budget
>> > - how to reset a hub
>> > - how to suspend/resume a hub
>> > - how to react to the hub whose port you've claimed being unplugged
>> >
>> > Note that these problems (except for the power budget) must be handled
>> > in kernel space or we can deadlock due to the storage driver.
>> > Thus you must write a real "device level" usb driver and implement
>> > the necessary methods. Or possibly even several "device level"
>> > drivers.
>>
>> These aren't issues, at least no more than they are now.  The hub
>> driver will continue to control the port as usual.  The only difference
>> is that the generic driver won't automatically configure a new device
>> plugged into the port, no other process will be allowed to access the
>> usbfs device file, write access to the bConfigurationValue attribute
>> will be denied, and all interfaces in the device will automatically be
>> bound to usbfs.
>
> If you just want to support exotic modes of configuration, that's
> enough. If you really want to operate the device (or devices, what happens
> if you plug in a hub?)  you'll need fuller support. It seems to that if you
> wish to use this for the purpose of virtualisation, you need fuller support.

Can you please expand a bit more on that?
My virtualization usecase doesn't really need the ability to connect hubs
to grabbed ports.

Would it be easier to just disallow plugging in hubs?

Pantelis
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