+++ Martijn Coenen [20/07/18 17:42 +0200]:
On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 4:49 PM, Jessica Yu <jeyu@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thanks. Also, it looks like we're currently just warning (in both
modpost and on module load) if a module uses symbols from a namespace
it doesn't import. Are you also planning to eventually introduce
namespace enforcement?
This is something I've definitely been thinking about, and was curious
what others would think. My main concern with enforcement is that it
will start failing to load out-of-tree modules that use newly
namespaced symbols. On the other hand, I think those modules will need
to be rebuilt anyway to be able to load, because the changes to struct
kernel_symbol make them incompatible with the current kernel. That
could be another reason for having these symbols in a special section
(with its own struct namespaced_kernel_symbol); but on the other hand,
it would make the module loader more complex just to facilitate
out-of-tree drivers, and I'm not sure where the trade-off between
those two falls.
IMO I don't think we should bend over backwards to accommodate
out-of-tree modules - modifying the module loader to recognize even
more special sections to accommodate these OOT modules would be where
we'd draw the line I think.
It'd be trivial to fail the module build in
modpost as well as reject the module on load if it uses an exported
symbol belonging to a namespace it doesn't import. Although, I'd go
with the warnings for a development cycle or two, to gently introduce
the change in API and let other subsystems as well as out-of-tree
module developers catch up.
An approach like that makes sense to me. Another alternative would be
to make it a CONFIG_ option, and let distros/etc. decide what they are
comfortable with.
I think going forward I would prefer to have export namespaces to be a
normal and regular part of kernel API (as in, we shouldn't require a
new option for it), and that the warnings for 1-2 cycles are courteous
enough - but anyone with stronger opinions about this should speak up.
Thanks,
Jessica
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