Re: [PATCH v2 10/12] dt-bindings: connector: add properties for typec power delivery

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On 05.03.2018 08:00, Jun Li wrote:
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Andrzej Hajda [mailto:a.hajda@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>> Sent: 2018年2月27日 16:41
>> To: Jun Li <jun.li@xxxxxxx>; gregkh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
>> robh+dt@xxxxxxxxxx; heikki.krogerus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; linux@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Cc: mark.rutland@xxxxxxx; yueyao@xxxxxxxxxx; Peter Chen
>> <peter.chen@xxxxxxx>; garsilva@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; o_leveque@xxxxxxxxx;
>> shufan_lee@xxxxxxxxxxx; linux-usb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
>> devicetree@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; dl-linux-imx <linux-imx@xxxxxxx>
>> Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 10/12] dt-bindings: connector: add properties for
>> typec power delivery
>>
>> On 26.02.2018 12:49, Li Jun wrote:
>>> In case of usb-c-connector with power delivery support, add bingdings
>>> supported by current typec driver, so user can pass all those
>>> properties via dt.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Li Jun <jun.li@xxxxxxx>
>>> ---
>>> Changes for v2:
>>> - Added typec properties are based on general usb connector bindings[1]
>>>   proposed by Andrzej Hajda.
>>> - Use the standard unit suffixes as defined in property-units.txt.
>>>
>>> [1]
>>>
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>>>
>>>  .../bindings/connector/usb-connector.txt           | 43
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>  1 file changed, 43 insertions(+)
>>>
>>> diff --git
>>> a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.txt
>>> b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.txt
>>> index e1463f1..242f6df 100644
>>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.txt
>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.txt
>>> @@ -15,6 +15,30 @@ Optional properties:
>>>  - type: size of the connector, should be specified in case of USB-A, USB-B
>>>    non-fullsize connectors: "mini", "micro".
>>>
>>> +Required properties for usb-c-connector with power delivery support:
>>> +- port-type: should be one of "source", "sink" or "dual".
>>> +- default-role: preferred power role if port-type is "dual"(drp),
>>> +should be
>>> +  "sink" or "source".
>> Since port carries data and power, it would be better to explicitly mention it
>> in names of properties which can be ambiguous.
>> Maybe instead of 'port-type' you can use 'power-role', for example.
> Port-type is align with the name of typec coding and ABI, 'power-role'
> is more like for the current role rather than the port's ability.

I am not sure what are you exactly mean by "coding and ABI", but I guess
it is just about Power-Delivery part of USB-C. And if you want to put
this property into USB node without mark it is related to PD part of USB
connector, you risk confusion with possible USB data related properties.
Simple question, what if somebody wants to add property describing USB
data capabilities (DFP, UFP, DRD), how should it be named?

>
>> Other thing is that default-role is required only in case of DRP, so maybe
>> better would be to squash it in power-role, for example:
>>     power-role: should be on of "source", "sink", "dual-source", "dual-sink",
>> in case of dual roles suffix determines preferred role.
> I don't know how much this squash can benefit, "dual-source/sink" is not
> directly showing its meaning by name.

Some benefit is simpler binding, no conditionally-required property.

Another question is that USB TypeC specification describes 7 different
"behavioral models" [1]:
- Source-only
- Source (Default) – strong preference toward being a Source but
subsequently
capable of becoming a Sink using USB PD swap mechanisms.
- Sink-only
- Sink (Default) – strong preference toward being a Sink but
subsequently capable of
becoming a Source using USB PD swap mechanisms.
- DRP: Toggling (Source/Sink)
- DRP: Sourcing Device
- DRP: Sinking Host

How it maps to your proposed props?

[1]: USB Type-C specification release 1.3, chapter 4.5.1.4.

Regards
Andrzej

>
>>
>>> +- src-pdos: An array of u32 with each entry providing supported power
>>> +  source data object(PDO), the detailed bit definitions of PDO can be
>>> +found
>>> +  in "Universal Serial Bus Power Delivery Specification" chapter
>>> +6.4.1.2
>>> +  Source_Capabilities Message, the order of each entry(PDO) should
>>> +follow
>>> +  the PD spec chapter 6.4.1. Required for power source and power dual
>> role.
>>> +- snk-pdos: An array of u32 with each entry providing supported power
>>> +  sink data object(PDO), the detailed bit definitions of PDO can be
>>> +found in
>>> +  "Universal Serial Bus Power Delivery Specification" chapter 6.4.1.3
>>> +Sink
>>> +  Capabilities Message, the order of each entry(PDO) should follow
>>> +the PD
>>> +  spec chapter 6.4.1. Required for power sink and power dual role.
>> We should avoid magic numbers, magic numbers are bad :) If we really need
>> to use PDOs here, I think we can re-use PDO_* macros [1] - DTC should be
>> able to parse it, maybe some lifting will be necessary.
>>
>> [1]:
>> https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Felix
>> ir.bootlin.com%2Flinux%2Fv4.16-rc3%2Fsource%2Finclude%2Flinux%2Fusb%
>> 2Fpd.h%23L161&data=02%7C01%7Cjun.li%40nxp.com%7Cccf14a36ca6445e
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>>> +- max-snk-microvolt: The max voltage the sink can support in micro
>>> +volts,
>>> +  required for power sink and power dual role.
>>> +- max-snk-microamp: The max current the sink can support in micro
>>> +amps,
>>> +  required for power sink and power dual role.
>>> +- max-snk-microwatt-hours: The max power the sink can support in
>>> +micro
>>> +  Watt-hours, required for power sink and power dual role.
>>> +- op-snk-microwatt-hours: Sink required operating power in micro
>>> +Watt-hours,
>>> +  if source offered power is less then it, Capability Mismatch is
>>> +set,
>>> +  required for power sink and power dual role.
>> What is the relation between above properties and PDOs specified earlier?
>> Are you sure all these props are required?
>>
> Sorry, with latest tcpm code, those props are not required, will remove them.
>
> Jun Li
>> And general remark regarding all above properties. For me, most of them
>> are specific not to the port but to devices responsible for power
>> management: chargers, pmics,....
>> In many cases these properties are redundant with devices capabilities.
>> On the other side I guess in many cases it may be convenient to put them
>> here, so I am not sure what is better :)
>>
>> Regards
>> Andrzej
>>
>>> +
>>>  Required nodes:
>>>  - any data bus to the connector should be modeled using the OF graph
>> bindings
>>>    specified in bindings/graph.txt, unless the bus is between parent
>>> node and @@ -73,3 +97,22 @@ ccic: s2mm005@33 {
>>>  		};
>>>  	};
>>>  };
>>> +
>>> +3. USB-C connector attached to a typec port controller(ptn5110),
>>> +which has power delivery support and enables drp.
>>> +
>>> +typec: ptn5110@50 {
>>> +	...
>>> +	usb_con: connector {
>>> +		compatible = "usb-c-connector";
>>> +		label = "USB-C";
>>> +		port-type = "dual";
>>> +		default-role = "sink";
>>> +		src-pdos = <0x380190c8>;
>>> +		snk-pdos = <0x380190c8 0x3802d0c8>;
>>> +		max-snk-microvolt = <9000>;
>>> +		max-snk-microamp = <2000>;
>>> +		max-snk-microwatt-hours = <18000>;
>>> +		op-snk-microwatt-hours = <9000>;
>>> +	};
>>> +};


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