* Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi Ingo, > > On 01/22/2017 05:04 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > * Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >>>> +static void xdbc_runtime_delay(unsigned long count) > >>>> +{ > >>>> + udelay(count); > >>>> +} > >>>> +static void (*xdbc_delay)(unsigned long) = xdbc_early_delay; > >>> Is this udelay() complication really necessary? udelay() should work fine even in > >>> early code. It might not be precisely calibrated, but should be good enough. > >> I tried udelay() in the early code. It's not precise enough for the > >> hardware handshaking. > > Possibly because on x86 early udelay() did not work at all - i.e. there's no delay > > whatsoever. > > Yes. > > > > > Could you try it on top of this commit in tip:timers/core: > > > > 4c45c5167c95 x86/timer: Make delay() work during early bootup > > > > ? > > I tried tip:timers/core. It's not precise enough for my context either. > > __const_udelay(). > > 157 inline void __const_udelay(unsigned long xloops) > 158 { > 159 unsigned long lpj = this_cpu_read(cpu_info.loops_per_jiffy) ? : loops_per_jiffy; > 160 int d0; > 161 > 162 xloops *= 4; > 163 asm("mull %%edx" > 164 :"=d" (xloops), "=&a" (d0) > 165 :"1" (xloops), "0" (lpj * (HZ / 4))); > 166 > 167 __delay(++xloops); > 168 } > > > In my early code, loops_per_jiffy is not initialized yet. Hence "lpj" for the asm line > is 4096 (default value). > > The cpu_info.loops_per_jiffy actually reads 8832000 after initialization. They are > about 2000 times different. > > I did a hacky test in kernel to check the difference between these two different > "lpj" values. (The hacky patch is attached.) Below is the output for 100ms delay. > > [ 2.494751] udelay_test uninitialized ---->start > [ 2.494820] udelay_test uninitialized ---->end > [ 2.494828] udelay_test initialized ---->start > [ 2.595234] udelay_test initialized ---->end > > For 100ms delay, udelay() with uninitialized loops_per_jiffy only gives a delay of > only 69us. Ok, then could we add some simple calibration to make udelay work much better - or perhaps move the udelay calibration up earlier? Hiding essentially an early udelay() implementation in an early-printk driver is ugly and counterproductive. Thanks, Ingo -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html