Corrected a bouncing email address (sorry for the noise) On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 03:11:36PM -0700, Brian Norris wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 04:48:01PM -0400, Robert Foss wrote: > > On 2016-08-22 11:23 PM, Brian Norris wrote: > > >+ others > > > > > >Hi Robert and Felipe, > > > > > >I have a few questions for one or both of you. I'm not really an expert > > >on runtime PM, so please take my questions with a grain of salt. > > > > > >On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 04:32:15PM -0400, robert.foss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > >>From: Robert Foss <robert.foss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >> > > >>Enable runtime PM for the xhci-plat device so that the parent device > > >>may implement runtime PM. > > >> > > >>Signed-off-by: Robert Foss <robert.foss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >> > > >>Tested-by: Robert Foss <robert.foss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >>--- > > >> drivers/usb/host/xhci-plat.c | 29 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++-- > > >> 1 file changed, 27 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) > > >> > > >>diff --git a/drivers/usb/host/xhci-plat.c b/drivers/usb/host/xhci-plat.c > > >>index ed56bf9..ba4efe7 100644 > > >>--- a/drivers/usb/host/xhci-plat.c > > >>+++ b/drivers/usb/host/xhci-plat.c > > >>@@ -246,6 +246,9 @@ static int xhci_plat_probe(struct platform_device *pdev) > > >> if (ret) > > >> goto dealloc_usb2_hcd; > > >> > > >>+ pm_runtime_set_active(&pdev->dev); > > >>+ pm_runtime_enable(&pdev->dev); > > >>+ > > > > > >How does it help to enable PM runtime like this, if you don't have any > > >kind of runtime_{suspend,resume}() callbacks? > > > > Andrew, I think you understand the inner workings of this code > > better than me, maybe you could give a short summary? > > I believe Andrew is fairly busy, and I already talked with him a bit > about this. This is needed (as per your (or his?) commit message) only > if you have a parent device that wants to implement runtime PM. Now > depending on what you want to do with "runtime PM", this might mean > the parent device has to suspend xhci_{suspend,resume}() on behalf of > xhci-plat.c. Not very nice layering IMO, but it has been done before... > > So I guess this comes down to "what does a parent device/driver want to > do"? If that's (e.g.) just putting some PHY into a slightly lower power > mode, then maybe it's fine for xhci-plat not to do anything else. But if > you actually want to completely power down the parent bus, reset an > accompanying dual-role/OTG controller, etc., then this really isn't > sufficient, AFAICT. But maybe that's just an indictment of the poor > structure of dwc3's host-mode support, more than it is an indictment of > this patch. > > Brian -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html