Re: [PATCH v2 0/3] USB: add generic onboard USB HUB driver

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On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 12:13 AM, Alan Stern <stern@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Dec 2015, Rob Herring wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 3:35 AM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > On Monday 14 December 2015 15:26:11 Peter Chen wrote:
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> There is a known issue that the USB code can't handle USB HUB's
>> >> external pins well, in that case, it may cause some onboard
>> >> USB HUBs can't work since their PHY's clock or reset pin needs to
>> >> operate.
>> >>
>> >> The user reported this issue at below:
>> >> http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-usb/msg131502.html
>> >>
>> >> In this patch set, I add a generic onboard USB HUB driver to
>> >> handle this problem, the external signals will be configured
>> >> before usb controller's initialization, it much likes we did
>> >> it at board code before.
>> >>
>> >> The user needs to add this generic hub node at dts to support it.
>> >>
>> >> @The udoo users, help to test please.
>> >
>> > I still think need to do this properly by representing the hub
>> > device as a USB device, using power sequencing code like MMC does.
>>
>> I agree on doing it properly, but am not sure that pwrseq binding for
>> MMC is proper. The pwrseq binding is fairly limited and working around
>> the driver model IMO. Hubs may also need I2C setup which I don't think
>> could be done generically other than some defined sequence of i2c
>> transactions. The current project I'm working on needs to use I2C to
>> configure the hub to use HSIC mode for example. I really think we need
>> a pre-probe driver hook to handle this. That would allow device
>> specific setup to live in the driver.
>>
>> Perhaps a more simple approach would be just forcing driver probe if a
>> DT node is present. I'm not all that familiar with USB drivers, but
>> presumably there is some setup before probe like setting the USB
>> device address. We'd have to allow doing that later during probe.
>
> It's not clear (to me, anyway) how this is meant to work.  USB is a
> completely discoverable bus: There is no way to represent devices
> statically; they have to be discovered.  But a device can't be
> discovered unless it is functional, so if an onboard hub (or any other
> sort of USB device) requires power, clocks, or something similar in
> order to function, it won't be discovered.  There won't be any device
> structure to probe, and "forcing driver probe" won't accomplish
> anything.
>
> It seems to me that the only way something like this could be made to
> work is if the necessary actions are keyed off the host controller (and
> in particular, _not_ the hub driver), presumably at the time the
> controller is probed.

The reason why I put the code at hub driver is the onboard USB device
may be at 2nd level hub, at hub driver, we can know all devices under
this level hub.

> With anything else, you run the risk that the
> necessary resources won't get enabled before they are needed.
>

Sorry, I can't understand what you mean


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BR,
Peter Chen
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