Re: USB resume issue

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On Tue, 1 Dec 2015, Alan Cooper wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Alan Stern <stern@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> I'm now sure the host in "non-compliant".
> >
> > It is non-compliant if it turns off Vbus power during suspend.  But
> > that may be caused by the platform more than by the controller itself.
> >
> 
> I wasn't able to find any document that states that VBUS must be on in
> S3 mode.

Hmmm, that's a little tricky.  Were you able to find a document that 
says Vbus must be on in S0?  People tend to make assumptions about 
these things without stating them clearly.

The USB-2.0 spec says (section 7.2.1, the paragraph about root port
hubs): "Systems that obtain operating power externally, either AC or
DC, must supply at least five unit loads to each port."  (A unit load 
is 100 mA.)

There's no mention of suspend, S3, or anything else.  However, I think 
we can assume this refers to the case where the root hub is not 
suspended.

Section 7.2.3 discusses power control during suspend/resume.  Among 
other things, it says:

	When a hub is in the Suspend state, it must still be able to
	provide the maximum current per port (one unit load of current
	per port for bus-powered hubs and five unit loads per port for
	self-powered hubs). This is necessary to support remote
	wakeup-capable devices that will power-up while the remainder
	of the system is still suspended.

Although it doesn't say so explicitly, this includes root hubs as well
as external hubs.  The normal current draw during suspend will of 
course be a lot smaller than this; the maximum is needed only during 
the time that a downstream device is powering up because of a wakeup 
event.

>  In our SoC, the USB controller is not in the AON block so it
> looses power in S3 and that disables the USB VBUS supply. If I can
> prove our SoC is out of spec, I can probably get it fixed in future
> chips.

Maybe this reference will help.

Alan Stern

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