On 26.7.2015 17:14, Alan Stern wrote: > On Sun, 26 Jul 2015, Petr Cvek wrote: > >> What about higher speeds (not relevant on PXA, but ep_matches() is >> called from usb_ep_autoconfig_ss() )? According to >> >> http://wiki.osdev.org/Universal_Serial_Bus#Maximum_Data_Payload_Size_2 >> >> High speed INT endpoint has a maximum data payload 1024 B and BULK >> only 512 B (are other attributes of the data phase similar?). What >> about superspeed? > > It's true that high speed interrupt endpoints can have higher maxpacket > values than bulk endpoints. But this is okay, since ep_matches() > checks that the hardware maxpacket value is at least as large as the > value in the descriptor: > > if (ep->maxpacket_limit < max) > return 0; OK > >>>> * modprobe g_serial use_acm=1 n_ports=1 >>>> * original version of ep_matches() (returns bulk and int) >>>> * compatible EP configuration/definition for UDC side http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/usb/gadget/udc/pxa27x_udc.c#L2352 >>>> USB_EP_CTRL, >>>> USB_EP_OUT_BULK(1), >>>> USB_EP_IN_BULK(2), >>>> USB_EP_IN_ISO(3), >>>> USB_EP_OUT_ISO(4), >>>> USB_EP_IN_INT(5), >>>> * modified EP configuration for UDC side (just changed EP3 ISO to BULK, so there is one free BULK) >>>> USB_EP_CTRL, >>>> USB_EP_OUT_BULK(1), >>>> USB_EP_IN_BULK(2), >>>> USB_EP_IN_BULK(3), //change >>>> USB_EP_OUT_ISO(4), >>>> USB_EP_IN_INT(5), >>>> >>>> ===results=== >>>> * original configuration is OK, all endpoints are found (in order ep2in-bulk, ep1out-bulk, ep3in-int), INT notification seems to work >>> >>> I don't understand. Above you said that the EP definition in the UDC >>> is USB_EP_IN_ISO(3). So how can you end up with ep3in-int? int != ISO. >>> You should have ended up with the third endpoint being ep5in-int, >>> because ep_matches() doesn't allow an isochronous to match a request >>> for an interrupt endpoint. >> >> I have changed definition of ISO to BULK only to accomplish minimal >> change of driver code (for my demonstration free BULK must be defined >> before INT - inserting new EP would require to reindex all next EPs >> and modifying links from PXA side endpoints). The USB_EP_IN_ISO(3) is >> just "unused" endpoint. > > This doesn't answer my question. I was asking about the original > configuration, not your changed configuration. You wrote: > >> * original configuration is OK, all endpoints are found (in order >> ep2in-bulk, ep1out-bulk, ep3in-int), INT notification seems to work > > But that isn't possible, because in the original configuration ep3in is > iso, not int. Did you intend to write "ep5in-int" rather than > "ep3in-int"? > Oh my bad, It seems I got confused by my debug printks (warning about bulk as int and end of search). It should be: original: ep2in-bulk ep1out-bulk ep5in-int modified (free bulk before int): ep2in-bulk ep1out-bulk ep3in-bulk ... pxa27x-udc pxa27x-udc: ep15:pxa_ep_enable: type mismatch ... g_serial gadget: acm ttyGS0 can't notify serial state, -22 >>>> * modified configuration fails: >>>> >>>> [ 4259.609088] pxa27x-udc pxa27x-udc: ep15:pxa_ep_enable: type mismatch >>>> >>>> by this condition: >>>> >>>> http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/usb/gadget/udc/pxa27x_udc.c#L1416 >>>> >>>> because ep_matches() returns BULK. >>> >>> Okay, that's a problem in pxa27x-udc. Why does it insist on an exact >>> match between the hardware endpoint type and the type contained in the >>> descriptor? It should accept an interrupt descriptor if the hardware >>> type is bulk. >> >> Hmm, making BULK EP equivalent with INT EP (when INT is requested) >> would made debugging (there is special bitfield in the config >> registers) and configuration preset (not anymore unordered set, but >> definition in the specific sequence) hell. But in other ways it can >> be OK (specification does not say that using EP marked INT as BULK >> will fail). > > This business about using bulk endpoints in place of interrupt > endpoints goes back to the days when most UDCs had a very limited > selection of endpoints. The idea was that a gadget could work even if > there weren't enough interrupt endpoints in the hardware, provided > there were extra bulk endpoints. > I thought so, but on the PXA27x you can configure any endpoint for any type and at the same time you must configure them for the exact matching order. Maybe matching with BULK as INT functionality could work if all predefined INT was first in the array (.udc_usb_ep). This would prioritize predefined INT endpoints and use BULK only after INT exhaustion. (ideal way would be resetting UDC and generating EP configuration for every set_configuration/interface, but I don't know if possible). >> I think optimal idea is custom matcher function. It would eliminate >> codes for superspeed checking on SoC which known only fullspeed ;-). > > Wuldn't it also mean duplicating a lot of code? Each custom matcher > function would essentially have to include most of ep_matches(). > There can be global generic matching function (striped of quirks) which can be called even from custom matcher (only quirks). >> P.S. I did a basic research where UDCs differ between BULK and INT >> handling (just searching for usb_endpoint_type(), USB_ENDPOINT_XFER_* >> and usb_endpoint_xfer_*() so it returned BULK on a software side - >> irrelevant): >> r8a66597-udc.c (using different constants, dedicated structure entries) >> m66592-udc.c (same as r8a66597-udc.c) >> dummy_hcd.c (well it is only dummy, says "bulk is OK" for INT, but has different matching rules for HS BULK and INT) >> atmel_usba_udc.c (only by write of some flag) >> net2272.c (fails with BULK, USB_SPEED_HIGH and maxpacket != 512) >> at91_udc.c (only BULK is only OK with 8,16,32,64 values) >> pxa25x_udc.c (setting one flag when hw (?) endpoint is BULK and another if nonBULK, INT FIFO size defined as 8, BULK FIFO as 64) >> net2280.c (INT path has erratum, different maxpacket matching) >> pxa27x_udc.h (INT_FIFO_SIZE defined as 16B, BULK_FIFO_SIZE defined as 64B) >> mv_udc_core.c (different codepath) >> gr_udc.c (using mode of endpoint to print messages and register setting) >> fsl_qe_udc.c (different maxpacket sizes for highspeed) >> udc-xilinx.c (maching of different maxpacket sizes) >> omap_udc.c (maxpacket size definitions) > > The fact that bulk and interrupt are handled differently doesn't mean > that you aren't allowed to allocate a bulk endpoint when the gadget > driver quested an interrupt endpoint. Yeah, I was just curious, although PXA25x have endpoint HW handling really different. It has exception in ep_matches() and it cannot use INT endpoint but only BULK endpoint for INT communication. As PXA25x was one of few UDCs at the time of using "BULK as INT". I thought that newer UDCs does not have these problems anymore (like not enough INT endpoints). > > On the other hand, it certainly would be better to do this only when no > interrupt endpoints remain available. As it stands now, > usb_ep_autoconfig_ss() uses the first match it finds even if there is a > better match later on. There could be two passes, one for INT and second for BULK. But it would require ep_matches() to return only INT for INT request. ;-) > > Alan Stern > Petr Cvek -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html