At Thu, 21 May 2015 13:37:56 -0400 (EDT), Alan Stern wrote: > > On Thu, 21 May 2015, Takashi Iwai wrote: > > > At Thu, 21 May 2015 11:26:17 -0400 (EDT), > > Alan Stern wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 21 May 2015, Takashi Iwai wrote: > > > > > > > At Thu, 21 May 2015 10:18:08 -0400 (EDT), > > > > Alan Stern wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 21 May 2015, Takashi Iwai wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Then avoiding the failed firmware is no solution, indeed. > > > > > > If it's a new probe, it should be never executed during resume. > > > > > > > > > > Can you expand this comment? What's wrong with probing during resume? > > > > > > > > Well, if the probe requires the access to a user-space file, it can't > > > > be done during resume. That's the very problem we're seeing now. > > > > The firmware loader can't help much alone if it's a new device > > > > object. > > > > > > But the same thing happens during early boot, if the driver is built > > > into the kernel. When the probe occurs, userspace isn't up and running > > > yet, so the firmware loader can't do anything. > > > > > > Why should probe during resume be any worse than probe during early > > > boot? > > > > The early boot has initrd, so the files can be there. But the resume > > has no way to fetch the file except for cached data. > > I suppose USB could delay re-probing until userspace is running again, > if we knew when that was. But it would be awkward and prone to races. > It also would leave a user-visible window of time during which the > device does not exist, which we want to avoid. (This may not matter > for bluetooth, but it does matter for other kinds of devices.) Right. > I would prefer to solve this problem in a different way, if possible. Well, we're back in square again :) But, before going further the discussion in loop again, I'd like to know which firmware file actually hits. Is it a non-existing firmware? Or is it a firmware that should have been cached? In the latter case, why it isn't used? Takashi -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
