On 21 April 2015 at 23:51, Alan Stern <stern@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Anyway, you're suggesting that drivers should never override sysfs > attribute values. But there doesn't seem to be any other way to > implement the kernel's policy that wakeup should be enabled by default > for all keyboard devices. I just doubt if there should be any of these kinds of kernel's policy, especially for non-critical attributes like wakeup. Obviously now udev is put to a very embarassed position (supposedly it should be the one managing these policy, but now the fact is the kernel took its job from it). Also, from the case of my two receivers, we can see that it also causes unnecessary inconsistency to user experience. To me it's more of "driver's policy" than the kernel's. If it's not trying to make people with same hardware capibilities share the same experience on the same attributes, what's the meaning of these policies then? Yes of course there might be a (great) chance that it might make (many) people with certain hardware feel happier, but objectively does it mean anything? Not to mention that not everyone likes the policy. (Can anyone even confirm that the majority likes wakeup to be enabled for keyboards by default?) IMHO it would be best that any general policies considered important to be off-loaded to udev (as a udev rule?). Only when there's no better way (like "communicate directly" with udev?) for the driver to set necessary specific policies for itself, it goes back to this not-so-good method. > After all, only the driver knows whether or not the device it manages is a keyboard. I am not sure that I understand what does this mean practically to this issue. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-usb" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html