Re: Query regarding root hub reset

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On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 11:25:09AM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Dec 2014, Peter Chen wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 03:15:45PM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> > > On Tue, 23 Dec 2014, Peter Chen wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > The Linux USB stack supports turning off port power only under a very limited
> > > > > set of conditions.  For example, if the port is hard-wired or not connected at all,
> > > > > and if remote wakeup is not required.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Alan, any reasons/limitations we do not support it (by libusb)?
> > > 
> > > For the same reason we don't allow userspace to interfere with any
> > > device: When a kernel driver is in charge of a device, any changes the
> > > user wants to make must go through the driver.  If users were allowed
> > > to make changes to a device without telling the driver, then the driver
> > > would not be able to do its job properly.
> > 
> > Why we can't turn port power off without unbinding driver?
> > I see we can reset device at devio, why we can reset a device, but
> > can't turn its port off?
> 
> That's more or less a quirk of history.  If we were doing it now, I
> might say that a user program should not be allowed to reset a device
> unless it has claimed at least one of the device's interfaces.
> 
> However, that question does not have the right point of view.  The
> problem with turning off port power isn't that it interferes with the
> driver of the device attached to that port; the problem is that it
> interferes with the hub driver.
> 
> On the other hand, it would make sense to allow an exception for the
> case where userspace owns the port.  The (untested) patch below would
> be acceptable, and it would allow Deepak to do what he wants.

Thanks for explaining it, but I am still not understand why we need unbind
the interface when we go to turn the port power off or reset the port if
the port is owned by kernel. I often need to do continual plug in/out
usb device test, in order to emulate it, I just toggle the power (vbus
on <--> vbus off), I did not find anything wrong.

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Best Regards,
Peter Chen
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