Re: Poor performance with USB 1.1 drive connected to USB 3.0 port

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On Sun, 28 Sep 2014, Mark Knibbs wrote:

> > There's no telling the reason for this difference.  It's got to be a
> > hardware issue, though, not a software problem.  Maybe your xHCI
> > controller just isn't optimized for carrying out full-speed transfers.
> 
> That's a possibility, but the improvement between my initial test with
> kernel 3.14 and 3.16.2 (0.63MB/sec -> 0.75MB/sec) was obviously down to
> software.

Since you reliably observe a difference in speed between these kernels, 
you are in an ideal situation to use bisection.  That ought to pinpoint 
the code changes responsible for the speed difference.

> So there could be a lack of testing xhci_hcd with old USB 1.1
> devices too. Someone else would really need to reproduce these results
> though; the different kernels could have been built with different options
> which may have affected the results. But in all cases, via a USB 3.0 port
> the transfer is significantly slower.
> 
> Does the kernel driver have to poll the USB port? If it polls USB 3.0 ports
> at a lower rate than USB 2.0 ports, perhaps that could explain the
> difference.

The kernel does not poll USB ports.  At least, not for UHCI, OHCI, 
EHCI, or xHCI.

> I re-tested today with kernel 3.17-rc6 (on Lubuntu 12.04.5) and the USB 3.0
> result is back down to ~0.63MB/sec:
> # sg_rbuf --buffer=524288 -v -t -q /dev/sg5
>     Read buffer cdb: 3c 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 00 
> READ BUFFER reports: buffer capacity=983040, offset boundary=0
> time to read data from buffer was 332.637465 secs, 0.63 MB/sec
> Read 200 MiB (actual: 209715200 bytes), buffer size=512 KiB (524288 bytes)

Again, bisection should help.

> For someone with no actual USB 1.1 drive, could connecting a USB 2.0 drive
> through an old USB 1.1 hub (then to a USB 2.0 or 3.0 port) work for
> testing? USB 1.1 hubs are probably still relatively easy to come by.

Yes, that would work.

Alan Stern

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