Amir Goldstein <amir73il@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 11:57 PM Vinicius Costa Gomes > <vinicius.gomes@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> Christian Brauner <brauner@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: >> >> >> > Yes, the important thing is that an object cannot change >> >> > its non_refcount property during its lifetime - >> >> >> >> ... which means that put_creds_ref() should assert that >> >> there is only a single refcount - the one handed out by >> >> prepare_creds_ref() before removing non_refcount or >> >> directly freeing the cred object. >> >> >> >> I must say that the semantics of making a non-refcounted copy >> >> to an object whose lifetime is managed by the caller sounds a lot >> >> less confusing to me. >> > >> > So can't we do an override_creds() variant that is effectively just: > > Yes, I think that we can.... > >> > >> > /* caller guarantees lifetime of @new */ >> > const struct cred *foo_override_cred(const struct cred *new) >> > { >> > const struct cred *old = current->cred; >> > rcu_assign_pointer(current->cred, new); >> > return old; >> > } >> > >> > /* caller guarantees lifetime of @old */ >> > void foo_revert_creds(const struct cred *old) >> > { >> > const struct cred *override = current->cred; >> > rcu_assign_pointer(current->cred, old); >> > } >> > > > Even better(?), we can do this in the actual guard helpers to > discourage use without a guard: > > struct override_cred { > struct cred *cred; > }; > > DEFINE_GUARD(override_cred, struct override_cred *, > override_cred_save(_T), > override_cred_restore(_T)); > > ... > > void override_cred_save(struct override_cred *new) > { > new->cred = rcu_replace_pointer(current->cred, new->cred, true); > } > > void override_cred_restore(struct override_cred *old) > { > rcu_assign_pointer(current->cred, old->cred); > } > >> > Maybe I really fail to understand this problem or the proposed solution: >> > the single reference that overlayfs keeps in ovl->creator_cred is tied >> > to the lifetime of the overlayfs superblock, no? And anyone who needs a >> > long term cred reference e.g, file->f_cred will take it's own reference >> > anyway. So it should be safe to just keep that reference alive until >> > overlayfs is unmounted, no? I'm sure it's something quite obvious why >> > that doesn't work but I'm just not seeing it currently. >> >> My read of the code says that what you are proposing should work. (what >> I am seeing is that in the "optimized" cases, the only practical effect >> of override/revert is the rcu_assign_pointer() dance) >> >> I guess that the question becomes: Do we want this property (that the >> 'cred' associated with a subperblock/similar is long lived and the >> "inner" refcount can be omitted) to be encoded in the constructor? Or do >> we want it to be "encoded" in a call by call basis? >> > > Neither. > > Christian's proposal does not involve marking the cred object as > long lived, which looks a much better idea to me. > In my mind, I am reading his suggestion as the flag "long lived cred/lives long enough" is "in our brains" vs. what I proposed that the flag was "in the object". The effect of the "flag" is the same: when to use a lighter version (no refcount) of override/revert. What I was thinking was more more under the covers, implicit. And I can see the advantages of having them more explicit. > The performance issues you observed are (probably) due to get/put > of cred refcount in the helpers {override,revert}_creds(). > Yes, they are. Sorry that it was lost in the context. The original report is here: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20231018074553.41333-1-hu1.chen@xxxxxxxxx/ > Christian suggested lightweight variants of {override,revert}_creds() > that do not change refcount. Combining those with a guard and > I don't see what can go wrong (TM). > > If you try this out and post a patch, please be sure to include the > motivation for the patch along with performance numbers in the > commit message, even if only posting an RFC patch. > Of course. And to be sure, I will go with Christian's suggestion, it looks neat, and having a lighter version of references is a more common idiom. Thank you all. Cheers, -- Vinicius