On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Miklos Szeredi <miklos@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:53 PM, Amir Goldstein <amir73il@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 4:11 PM, Miklos Szeredi <miklos@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> - hardlinks: need to set overlay.redirect when hardlink is created >>> from a copied up file; similar to what we do on rename >>> >> >> Partly agree. >> 1. This is not atomic, because hardlink is not created in workdir. > > Doesn't matter; we can set overlay.redirect before we do the hardlink. > If the hardlink fails, we are left with the redirect, but that's not a > problem. > Right... >> 2. Reverse mapping will take care of this anyway. Remember? >> there is an extra hardlink in workdir/inodes with has overlay.redirect >> set on first alias copy up > > Yeah, but I don't really see why we'd need to set overlay.redirect on > copy-up. When reverse mapping (i.e. trying to reconstruct the overlay > dentry from the lower fh) we'll just do the same thing as for normal > lookup: use the path from the upper root to the dentry and look up > each component in the lower layers (taking into account any > overlay.redirect encountered). I was thinking we need overlay.redirect to find a lower alias by path from any upper alias, so I knew we should have overlay.redirect in the upper inode, but it's true that we can set it on the first ovl_link() and not at first copy up time. > >>> - for non-redirect case looking up by overlay.origin is almost surely >>> a pessimization >>> >> >> Not sure about that. >> For directories by fh and by name are probably on par - >> At most one lookup of ".." compared to one lookup of d.name. >> >> For non-dir there is a better way that is better than both (see below). > > Not that simple (see below). Not that simple referring to directories (and I agree), but not referring to non connected non-dir. > > Problem is there's more going on than just lookup of "..". In fact it > *must* entail the lookup of "name" as well, because that's the way the > dentry gets connected. There's an even bigger snag: where do we get > the name? There's a ->get_name() export op, but most fs don't define > it, and the default action is to iterate the parent dir and find the > one matching our inum. There goes the performance... > > That's why I'm saying it's almost certainly will be slower. Exception > might be the cached case, but even there lookup by inum might be > slower than the super optimized cached path lookup of a few filenames. > Since we are looking up the overlay dentry, which isn't cached at this > point, so why would the lower ones be? Agree for directories, so we should not be looking directory by fh. It's anyway hard to do for numlayers > 1. I will see about comparing origin.fh with dir found by path - it may be the way to go for snapshots. > >> When decoding directories you also want to get a connected dentry and >> verifying is_subdir() makes sense. >> >> HOWEVER, and this is big thing that I missed, when decoding a non-dir >> we DON'T need to get a connected dentry. >> It's perfectly fine to get a disconnected alias and getting a disconnected >> alias is always O(1) for the filesystem. > > It's O(1) but so is a single component lookup (case without > overlay.redirect). In the cold cache cache both will be slow, since > most of the time will be spent on getting the inode from disk. In the > hot cache case, odds are the name lookup will win, since it's the more > optimized codepath... > Correct. To complete the picture, here is how better lookup by inode than lookup by redirect path. Lookup of inode should be always quite fast for filesystem, even with cold indoe/dentry cache, inodes are easy to find by index, so worse case is O(1 inode block read from disk at a a known location). Compared to redirect by path of N elements this is much much better. O(N synchronic reads of inode blocks and N directory blocks from disk) > >> >> But I just realized something very very bad about non-samefs case. >> We must use made up st_dev for lower layers, we can certainly no >> longer use the real lower st_dev. >> If we do, then we will have 2 files in 2 different overlay mounts, >> who have the same lower inode but 2 different upper inodes with >> different content and those 2 overlay files will have the same >> st_dev/st_ino. > > Yeah, I told you about this issue a couple of mails back. > Yes you did. I guess I thought you were referring to not all lower on same sb. Then need a unique st_dev per lower layer because they don't share the same inode namespace. I though that 'all lower on same fs' was ok to use the same_lower_sb as st_dev, as is the case now for lower type entries, but it is not ok. >> >> I just found that in my debian based kvm-xfstests machine, diff >> reports 2 broken hardlinks with different content as equal, because >> they have the same st_dev/st_ino. >> >> So in conclusion: >> 1. Encode non-connectable file handles to non-dir > > Fine by me. > >> 2. Always try to lookup non-dir by fh first - it's O(1) > > Well... for simplicity sake, okay. Probably not a big loss. > >> 3. Non-samefs needs fake st_dev before reporting constant inodes > > Yes. > >> 4. Broken hardlinks should NOT report same inode > > Yes. > So to list everything for v4 in one place: 5. store uuid together with lower fh inside struct ovl_fh (in overlay.origin) There does not seem to be a reason to store root fh though for non-dir and its not relevant for for lookup of dir for snapshot case either (single lower layer case) Thanks, Amir. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-unionfs" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html