Hi Atom2, I didn't notice this before, but I had reproduced the situation as you described. I'm not sure if it is a real problem. The performing of 'stat' in Overlayfs are different between files and directories. Files directly call upper/lower getattr function but directories will set @dev and @ino by Overlayfs superblock itself. See line 135 in fs/overlayfs/dir.c """ static int ovl_dir_getattr(struct vfsmount *mnt, struct dentry *dentry, struct kstat *stat) { int err; enum ovl_path_type type; struct path realpath; type = ovl_path_real(dentry, &realpath); err = vfs_getattr(&realpath, stat); if (err) return err; stat->dev = dentry->d_sb->s_dev; // I think it's the cause. stat->ino = dentry->d_inode->i_ino; /* * It's probably not worth it to count subdirs to get the * correct link count. nlink=1 seems to pacify 'find' and * other utilities. */ if (OVL_TYPE_MERGE(type)) stat->nlink = 1; return 0; } """ I don't have the Overlayfs code on 3.11 or 3.13. I've lookup the v11 code in Miklos's git tree: git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mszeredi/vfs.git and found the code had been changed since the earliest code I could get. So I don't know the reason of this behavior. I guess it is used for filesystem consistence: directories in the same superblock have same device number? On 2015/2/21 2:15, Atom2 wrote: > I am using find with its printf "%D" option (provides the same information as stats device information "%d" - device number in decimal) to figure out whether a file system entry resides in the r/o lowerdir or the r/w upperdir of an overlayfs mounted filesystem. I distinguish between the two by getting the device number from a (plain) file know to be in the upperdir. > > The use case behind that is to be able to backup only files from the upperdir for several systems sharing a common lowerdir filesystem. I have used that (scripted approach via rsync) now for quiet some time and a few kernels back and it seemed to have worked very well. > I think your requirement need to be reconsidering. Maybe we could keep the @dev for a lower-only directory? Add Cc Miklos. Thanks, Hu > Currently I am using kernel 3.17.7 on gentoo and I seem to observe a strange behaviour (which I do not recall to have seen before on 3.13 and 3.11) with my approach as follows: > > .) plain files still work and the device number is correct > .) directories, however, always seem to reside in the lowerdir - even thoguh they do not exist there; in fact there's not a single file in the whole filesystem hierarchy that, according to stat/find, seems to reside in the upperdir: > > please see the stat output for a file and a directory, both residing in the same (parent) directory which is completely located in the upperdir (and does not at all exist in the lowerdir): > # stat serial > File: ‘serial’ > Size: 17 Blocks: 8 IO Block: 4096 regular file > Device: ca03h/51715d Inode: 88 Links: 1 > Access: (0644/-rw-r--r--) Uid: ( 0/ root) Gid: ( 0/ root) > Access: 2014-02-19 19:01:56.278161346 +0100 > Modify: 2014-02-19 19:01:56.278161346 +0100 > Change: 2014-02-19 19:01:56.278161346 +0100 > Birth: - > # > # stat certs/ > File: ‘certs/’ > Size: 4096 Blocks: 8 IO Block: 4096 directory > Device: dh/13d Inode: 331140 Links: 2 > Access: (0700/drwx------) Uid: ( 0/ root) Gid: ( 0/ root) > Access: 2014-04-26 14:08:47.337968562 +0200 > Modify: 2014-02-19 18:55:58.458161346 +0100 > Change: 2014-02-19 18:55:58.458161346 +0100 > Birth: - > > For comparision, please see the stat of /bin which only resides in the lowerdir and does not exist in the upperdir: > # stat /bin > File: ‘/bin’ > Size: 4096 Blocks: 8 IO Block: 4096 directory > Device: dh/13d Inode: 401777 Links: 2 > Access: (0755/drwxr-xr-x) Uid: ( 0/ root) Gid: ( 0/ root) > Access: 2015-02-20 17:50:24.066368607 +0100 > Modify: 2015-02-09 17:51:18.000000000 +0100 > Change: 2015-02-09 23:58:06.011825328 +0100 > Birth: - > > I do not think that this is the expected behaviour and I am pretty confident that this was different on older kernels - or am I missing anything/doing anything wrong here? > > Thanks and regards Atom2 > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-unionfs" in > the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > > . > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-unionfs" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html