On Wednesday, October 27, 2010, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote: > * Rafael J. Wysocki (rjw@xxxxxxx) wrote: > > On Tuesday, October 26, 2010, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote: > > > * Alan Stern (stern@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > > > On Tue, 26 Oct 2010, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote: > > > > > > > > > * Peter Zijlstra (peterz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, 2010-10-26 at 11:56 -0500, Pierre Tardy wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > + trace_runtime_pm_usage(dev, atomic_read(&dev->power.usage_count)+1); > > > > > > > atomic_inc(&dev->power.usage_count); > > > > > > > > > > > > That's terribly racy.. > > > > > > > > > > Looking at the original code, it looks racy even without considering the > > > > > tracepoint: > > > > > > > > > > int __pm_runtime_get(struct device *dev, bool sync) > > > > > { > > > > > int retval; > > > > > > > > > > + trace_runtime_pm_usage(dev, atomic_read(&dev->power.usage_count)+1); > > > > > atomic_inc(&dev->power.usage_count); > > > > > retval = sync ? pm_runtime_resume(dev) : pm_request_resume(dev); > > > > > > > > > > There is no implied memory barrier after "atomic_inc". So either all these > > > > > inc/dec are protected with mutexes or spinlocks, in which case one might wonder > > > > > why atomic operations are used at all, or it's a racy mess. (I vote for the > > > > > second option) > > > > > > > > I don't understand. What's the problem? The inc/dec are atomic > > > > because they are not protected by spinlocks, but everything else is > > > > (aside from the tracepoint, which is new). > > > > > > > > > kref should certainly be used there. > > > > > > > > What for? > > > > > > kref has the following "get": > > > > > > atomic_inc(&kref->refcount); > > > smp_mb__after_atomic_inc(); > > > > > > What seems to be missing in __pm_runtime_get() and pm_runtime_get_noresume() is > > > the memory barrier after the atomic increment. The atomic increment is free to > > > be reordered into the following spinlock (within pm_request_resume or pm_request > > > resume execution) because taking a spinlock only acts as a memory barrier with > > > acquire semantic, not a full memory barrier. > > > > > > So AFAIU, the failure scenario would be as follows (sorry for the 80+ columns): > > > > > > initial conditions: usage_count = 1 > > > > > > CPU A CPU B > > > 1) __pm_runtime_get() (sync = true) > > > 2) atomic_inc(&usage_count) (not committed to memory yet) > > > 3) pm_runtime_resume() > > > 4) spin_lock_irqsave(&dev->power.lock, flags); > > > 5) retval = __pm_request_resume(dev); > > > > If sync = true this is > > retval = __pm_runtime_resume(dev); > > which drops and reacquires the spinlock. > > Let's see. Upon entry in __pm_runtime_resume, the following condition holds > (remember, the initial condition is that usage_count == 1): > > dev->power.runtime_status == RPM_ACTIVE > > so retval is set to 1, which goto directly to "out", without setting "parent". > So there does not seem to be any spinlock reacquire on this path, or am I > misunderstanding how the "runtime_status" works ? No, you're not I think, the above is correct. I was referring to the scenario in which the device was RPM_SUSPENDED initially. > > In the meantime it sets > > ->power.runtime_status so that __pm_runtime_idle() will fail if run at this > > point. > > runtime_status will be left at "RPM_ACTIVE", which is the appropriate value > expected by __pm_runtime_idle. > > > > > > 6) (execute the body of __pm_request_resume and return) > > > 7) __pm_runtime_put() (sync = true) > > > 8) if (atomic_dec_and_test(&dev->power.usage_count)) > > > (still see usage_count == 1 before decrement, > > > thus decrement to 0) > > > 9) pm_runtime_idle() > > > 10) spin_unlock_irqrestore(&dev->power.lock, flags) > > > 11) spin_lock_irq(&dev->power.lock); > > > 12) retval = __pm_runtime_idle(dev); > > > > Moreover, __pm_runtime_idle() checks ->power.usage_count under the spinlock, > > so it will see it's been incremented in the meantime and it will back off. > > This is a subtle but important point. Yes, my scenario seems to be dealt with by > the extra usage_count check while the spinlock is held. > > How about adding a comment under this atomic_inc() stating that the memory > barriers are implicitely dealt with by the following spinlock release and the > extra check while spinlock is held ? > > Commenting memory barriers is important, but commenting why memory barriers are > not needed due to a subtle corner-case looks even more important. Well, given that this discussion is taking place at all, I admit that it would be good to document this somehow. :-) I'll take care of that. > (hrm, but more below considering pm_runtime_get_noresume()) > > > > > > 13) spin_unlock_irq(&dev->power.lock); > > > > > > So we end up in a situation where CPU A expects the device to be resumed, but > > > the last action performed has been to bring it to idle. > > > > > > A smp_mb__after_atomic_inc() between lines 2 and 3 would fix this. > > > > I don't think this particular race is possible. However, there is another one > > that seems to be possible (in a different function) that an explicit barrier > > will prevent from happening. > > > > It's related to pm_runtime_get_noresume(), but I think it's better to put the > > barrier where it's necessary rather than into pm_runtime_get_noresume() itself. > > Quoting your following mail: > > > Actually, no. Since rpm_idle() and rpm_suspend() both check usage_count under > > the spinlock, the race I was thinking about doesn't appear to be possible > > after all. > > Hrm, for the extra-usage_count-under-spinlock check to work, all > pm_runtime_get_noresume() callers should grab and release the dev->power.lock > after incrementing the usage_count. This does not seem to be the case though. So > you might really have a race there. > > So every code path that does: > > 1) pm_runtime_get_noresume(dev); > > 2) ... > > 3) pm_runtime_put_noidle(dev); > > expecting that the device state cannot be changed between 1 and 3 might be > surprised by a concurrent call to __pm_runtime_idle() that would put a device to > idle (or similarly with suspend) due to lack of memory barrier after the atomic > increment. > > Or am I missing something else ? First of all, the device can always be resumed regardless of the usage_count value. usage_count is only used to block attempts to suspend the device and execute its driver's ->runtime_idle() callback after it has been resumed. That's why the "normal" pm_runtime_get() queues up a resume request. IOW, the _get() only becomes meaningful after attempting to resume the device (which is what I tried to tell Arjan in one of the previous messages). Second, there's no synchronization between pm_runtime_get_noresume() and pm_runtime_suspend/idle() etc., so calling pm_runtime_get_noresume() is certainly insufficient to block pm_runtime_suspend/idle() regardless of memory barriers (there may be one already in progress when _get_noresume() is called). To limit possible status changes from happening one should (at least) run pm_runtime_barrier() (surprise, no? ;-)) after pm_runtime_get_noresume(). So if you don't want to resume the device immediately after increasing its usage_count (in which case it's better to use pm_runtime_get_sync()), you should do something like this: 1) pm_runtime_get_noresume(dev); 1a) pm_runtime_barrier(dev); // That takes care of all pending requests etc. 2) ... 3) pm_runtime_put_noidle(dev); [The meaning of pm_runtime_barrier() is that all of the runtime PM activity started before the barrier has been completed when it returns.] There's one place in the PM core where that really is necessary, but I wouldn't recommend anyone doing anything like it in a driver. Thanks, Rafael -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-trace-users" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html