Re: [PATCH v4 1/2] Provide in-kernel headers for making it easy to extend the kernel
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- Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/2] Provide in-kernel headers for making it easy to extend the kernel
- From: Greg KH <gregkh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2019 15:04:49 +0100
- Cc: Joel Fernandes <joel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, LKML <linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Andrew Morton <akpm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@xxxxxxxxxx>, atish patra <atishp04@xxxxxxxxx>, Daniel Colascione <dancol@xxxxxxxxxx>, Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@xxxxxxxxx>, Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@xxxxxxx>, Guenter Roeck <groeck@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@xxxxxxx>, Karim Yaghmour <karim.yaghmour@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Kees Cook <keescook@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Android Kernel Team <kernel-team@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "open list:DOCUMENTATION" <linux-doc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "open list:KERNEL SELFTEST FRAMEWORK" <linux-kselftest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, linux-trace-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Manoj Rao <linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@xxxxxxxxxx>, Qais Yousef <qais.yousef@xxxxxxx>, Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Shuah Khan <shuah@xxxxxxxxxx>, Yonghong Song <yhs@xxxxxx>
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On Fri, Mar 08, 2019 at 02:57:24PM +0100, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote:
> On 08.03.19 14:42, Joel Fernandes wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> > That sounds like it could be useful. I don't see any reason off the
> > top why that would not be possible to add to the list of archived
> > files in the future. The patch allows populating the list of files
> > from Kbuild using ikh_file_list variable.
>
> It seems the whole thing's going into a direction where a whole own
> subtopic is coming up: compressed built-in filesystem.
>
> Haven't had a deeper thought about it yet, whether or not existing
> filesystems like squashfs, initramfs, etc are the right thing for that,
> or something new should be invented, but a generic mechanism for
> compiled-in compressed (ro) filesystems could also be interesting
> for very small devices, that perhaps even dont need any persistence.
>
> Some requirements coming up in mind:
>
> 1. it shall be possible to have any number of instances - possibly by
> separate modules.
> 2. it shall be possible to use an bootloader/firmware provided image
> (so it can serve as initrd)
> 2. data should stay compressed as long as possible, but uncompressed
> data might be cached - do decompression on-demand
> 3. only needs to be ro (write access could be done via unionfs+friends)
> 4. it shall be swappable (if swap is enabled)
>
> In that scenario, these in-kernel headers would just one consumer,
> I can imagine lots of others.
I too want a pony :)
Until then, I think this feature should not be bikeshedded to death. It
fits a real need, is simple (modulo the Kbuild interactions), and is
optional for those that do not wish to waste the memory.
thanks,
greg k-h
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