Re: [tip: x86/bugs] x86/retpoline: Ensure default return thunk isn't used at runtime

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On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 08:44:31PM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 11:39:15AM -0700, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> > And see my reply to that?  Not trying to be daft, I just didn't see how
> > your reply was responsive.
> > 
> > A single WARN_ONCE() has the benefit of not overflowing dmesg, while
> > also making the warning available to those looking at dmesg (or the
> > taint flag), as those who care should be.
> 
> A single WARN once is not enough as this is security-sensitive. Warns do
> get ignored.
> 
> > A rate-limited WARN() is problematic, as it overflows dmesg (and
> > possibly wrapping other logs), potentially obscuring other important
> > data.
> 
> This will hopefully make people look by screaming louder. But no
> guarantee. Not saying it is the right thing.
> 
> UDing without any output is not the right thing either.
> 
> All I'm saying is, there's no good solution for how to catch this and
> make people report it.
> 
> Make more sense?

There are a lot of warnings which could become security concerns.

By definition, a warning means something is seriously wrong.  If it's
ignored, all bets are off.  That's why we taint the kernel.

-- 
Josh



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