Re: [tip:x86/platform] x86/hyper-v: Use hypercall for remote TLB flush
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- Subject: Re: [tip:x86/platform] x86/hyper-v: Use hypercall for remote TLB flush
- From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 11:03:36 +0200
- Cc: KY Srinivasan <kys@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Simon Xiao <sixiao@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Haiyang Zhang <haiyangz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Stephen Hemminger <sthemmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "torvalds@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <torvalds@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "luto@xxxxxxxxxx" <luto@xxxxxxxxxx>, "hpa@xxxxxxxxx" <hpa@xxxxxxxxx>, "vkuznets@xxxxxxxxxx" <vkuznets@xxxxxxxxxx>, "linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "rostedt@xxxxxxxxxxx" <rostedt@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "andy.shevchenko@xxxxxxxxx" <andy.shevchenko@xxxxxxxxx>, "tglx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tglx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "mingo@xxxxxxxxxx" <mingo@xxxxxxxxxx>, "linux-tip-commits@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <linux-tip-commits@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 01:15:18AM +0000, Jork Loeser wrote:
> > > HvFlushVirtualAddressList() states:
> > > This call guarantees that by the time control returns back to the
> > > caller, the observable effects of all flushes on the specified virtual
> > > processors have occurred.
> > >
> > > HvFlushVirtualAddressListEx() refers to HvFlushVirtualAddressList() as adding
> > > sparse target VP lists.
> > >
> > > Is this enough of a guarantee, or do you see other races?
> >
> > That's nowhere near enough. We need the remote CPU to have completed any
> > guest IF section that was in progress at the time of the call.
> >
> > So if a host IPI can interrupt a guest while the guest has IF cleared, and we then
> > process the host IPI -- clear the TLBs -- before resuming the guest, which still has
> > IF cleared, we've got a problem.
> >
> > Because at that point, our software page-table walker, that relies on IF being
> > clear to guarantee the page-tables exist, because it holds off the TLB invalidate
> > and thereby the freeing of the pages, gets its pages ripped out from under it.
>
> I see, IF is used as a locking mechanism for the pages. Would
> CONFIG_HAVE_RCU_TABLE_FREE be an option for x86? There are caveats
> (statically enabled, RCU for page-free), yet if the resulting perf is
> still a gain it would be worthwhile for Hyper-V targeted kernels.
I'm sure we talked about using HAVE_RCU_TABLE_FREE for x86 (and yes that
would make it work again), but this was some years ago and I cannot
readily find those emails.
Kirill would you have any opinions?
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