Hi Neil, On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 9:52 AM Neil Armstrong <narmstrong@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 12/11/2019 11:47, Andreas Färber wrote: > > Am 12.11.19 um 08:29 schrieb Uwe Kleine-König: > >> On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 06:23:47AM +0100, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > >>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 09:10:41PM +0100, Andreas Färber wrote: > >>>> Am 11.11.19 um 07:40 schrieb Greg Kroah-Hartman: > >>>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 06:42:05AM +0100, Andreas Färber wrote: > >>>>>> Am 11.11.19 um 06:27 schrieb Greg Kroah-Hartman: > >>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 05:56:09AM +0100, Andreas Färber wrote: > >>>>>>>> Use of soc_device_to_device() in driver modules causes a build failure. > >>>>>>>> Given that the helper is nicely documented in include/linux/sys_soc.h, > >>>>>>>> let's export it as GPL symbol. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I thought we were fixing the soc drivers to not need this. What > >>>>>>> happened to that effort? I thought I had patches in my tree (or > >>>>>>> someone's tree) that did some of this work already, such that this > >>>>>>> symbol isn't needed anymore. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I do still see this function used in next-20191108 in drivers/soc/. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I'll be happy to adjust my RFC driver if someone points me to how! > >>>>> > >>>>> Look at c31e73121f4c ("base: soc: Handle custom soc information sysfs > >>>>> entries") for how you can just use the default attributes for the soc to > >>>>> create the needed sysfs files, instead of having to do it "by hand" > >>>>> which is racy and incorrect. > >>>> > >>>> Unrelated. > >>>> > >>>>>> Given the current struct layout, a type cast might work (but ugly). > >>>>>> Or if we stay with my current RFC driver design, we could use the > >>>>>> platform_device instead of the soc_device (which would clutter the > >>>>>> screen more than "soc soc0:") or resort to pr_info() w/o device. > >>>>> > >>>>> Ick, no, don't cast blindly. What do you need the pointer for? Is this > >>>>> for in-tree code? > >>>> > >>>> No, an RFC patchset: https://patchwork.kernel.org/cover/11224261/ > >>>> > >>>> As I indicated above, I used it for a dev_info(), which I can easily > >>>> avoid by using pr_info() instead: > >>>> > >>>> diff --git a/drivers/soc/realtek/chip.c b/drivers/soc/realtek/chip.c > >>>> index e5078c6731fd..f9380e831659 100644 > >>>> --- a/drivers/soc/realtek/chip.c > >>>> +++ b/drivers/soc/realtek/chip.c > >>>> @@ -178,8 +178,7 @@ static int rtd_soc_probe(struct platform_device *pdev) > >>>> > >>>> platform_set_drvdata(pdev, soc_dev); > >>>> > >>>> - dev_info(soc_device_to_device(soc_dev), > >>>> - "%s %s (0x%08x) rev %s (0x%08x) detected\n", > >>>> + pr_info("%s %s (0x%08x) rev %s (0x%08x) detected\n", > >>>> soc_dev_attr->family, soc_dev_attr->soc_id, chip_id, > >>>> soc_dev_attr->revision, chip_rev); > >>> > >>> First off, the driver should not be spitting out noise for when all goes > >>> well like this :) > >> > >> I didn't follow the discussion closely, but I think I want to object > >> here a bit. While I agree that each driver emitting some stuff to the > >> log buffer is hardly helpful, seeing the exact SoC details is indeed > >> useful at times. With my Debian kernel team member hat on, I'd say > >> keep this information. This way the SoC details make it into kernel bug > >> reports without effort on our side. > > > > Seconded. For example, RTD1295 will support LSADC only from revision B00 > > on (and it's not the first time I'm seeing such things in the industry). > > So if a user complains, it will be helpful to see that information. > > > > Referencing your Amlogic review, with all due respect for its authors, > > the common framework here just lets that information evaporate into the > > deeps of sysfs. > > Hopefully we never had the case where needed to use the soc info in drivers, > but now we have one and having such infrastructure already in-place will help. > > Renesas platforms makes a extensive usage of the soc info infrastructure to > figure out plenty of HW parameters at runtime and lower their DT changes. We do our best to use it solely for detecting quirks in early SoC revisions. Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds