Hi, We will meet below issues when compensating the suspend time for the timekeeping. 1. We have too many different ways of dealing with persistent timekeeping across architectures, so it is hard for one driver to be compatible with different architectures. For example, we should register register_persistent_clock() on arm architecture, but we should set x86_platform.get_wallclock() on x86 architecture, and we should implement the read_persistent_clock64() on arm64 architecture and so on. 2. On some platforms (such as Spreadtrum platform), we registered the high resolution timer as one clocksource to update the OS time, but the high resolution timer will be stopped when system goes into suspend state. So we use another one always-on timer (but low resolution) to calculate the suspend time to compensate the OS time. Though we can register the always-on timer as one clocksource, we need re-calculate the mult/shift with one larger conversion range to calculate the suspend time and need update the clock in case of running over the always-on timer. More duplicate code will be added if other platforms meet this case. 3. Now we have 3 sources that could be used to compensate the OS time: Nonstop clocksource during suspend, persistent clock and rtc device, which is complicated. Another hand is that the nonstop clocksource can risk wrapping if the system suspend time is too long, so we need one mechanism to wake up the system before the nonstop clocksource wrapping. According to above issues, we can introduce one common persistent clock framework to be compatible with different architectures, in future we will remove the persistent clock implementation for each architecture. Also this framework will implement common code to help drivers to register easily. Moreover if we converted all SUSPEND_NONSTOP clocksource to register to be one persistent clock, we can remove the SUSPEND_NONSTOP clocksource accounting in timekeeping, which means we can only compensate the OS time from persistent clock and RTC. Will be appreciated for any comments. Thank you all. Arnd posted some comments as below last time, but we did not get a general consensus, so I post them again. Arnd said: "I was planning to discuss this with Daniel and John during Linaro Connect, but that didn't happen, so I'd like to bring up the bigger picture here again. Today, we have a number of subsystem-type interfaces that deal with time keeping in the wider sense (I might be missing some): - clock source - clock event - sched clock - real time clock - ptp clock - persistent clock The first five have separate registration interfaces and may all refer to different hardware blocks, or (more commonly) have some overlap in the hardware. The fifth one is generalized by your series, without it it's really architecture specific (as the other ones were one one point). Are we happy with that structure in the long run? One of my earlier comments on this series was that I thought it should be combined with the clocksource registration, but upon talking to Baolin about it more, I realized that this just follows the same structure that we have for the others. In theory, we could have a more abstract way of registering a clock hardware that interfaces with any combination of the six subsystems I mentioned above, with a superset of the subsystem specific structures and a set of flags that indicate what a particular device is usable for. Combining all six might be a bit too much (in particular rtc, though it clearly overlaps the persistent-clk case), but what your general ideas on where we should be heading? Is it worth reworking the core kernel portion of the subsystems to simplify the individual drivers?" John also posted some important comments for this patch set, that I quite agree with his points. John said: "For context, these abstractions have grown out of the need for using different hardware components for all of these. It was quite common for x86 hardware to use the acpi_pm for clocksource, lapic/PIT for clockevent, tsc for sched_clock and CMOS RTC for persistent clock. While some of these could be backed by the same hardware, it wasn't common. However, hardware with less restrictions have allowed in some cases for these to be more unified, but I'm not sure if its particularly common. Another part of the reason that we don't combine the above abstractions, even when they are backed by the same hardware, is because some of the fields used for freq conversion (mult/shift) have different needs for the different types of accounting. For instance, with a clocksource, we are very focused on avoiding error to keep timekeeing accurate, thus we want to use as large a shift (and thus mult) as possible (and do our shifting as late as possible in our accounting). However, that then shrinks the amount of time that can be accumulated in one go w/o causing an overflow. Where as with sched_clock, we don't worry as much as about accuracy, so we can use smaller shifts (and thus mults), and thus can go for longer periods of time between accumulating without worrying. Similarly for the persistent clock case we don't need need to worry as much about accuracy, so we can can use smaller shifts, but we are not in as much of a hot patch, so we can also" Changes since RFC V1: - Move the alarmtimer starting into alarmtimer.c. - Export persistent_clock_start_alarmtimer(). - Add one memeber to indicate if the alarmtimer was initialized. - Fix build issues. Baolin Wang (8): time: Add persistent clock support clocksource: sprd: Add one persistent timer for Spreadtrum platform arm: time: Remove the persistent clock support for ARM architecture clocksource: arm_arch_timer: Register the persistent clock clocksource: timer-ti-32k: Register the persistent clock clocksource: time-pistachio: Register the persistent clock x86: tsc: Register the persistent clock time: timekeeping: Remove time compensating from nonstop clocksources arch/arm/include/asm/mach/time.h | 4 - arch/arm/kernel/time.c | 36 ------- arch/arm/plat-omap/Kconfig | 1 + arch/arm/plat-omap/counter_32k.c | 44 ++------ arch/x86/Kconfig | 1 + arch/x86/kernel/tsc.c | 21 ++++ drivers/clocksource/Kconfig | 4 + drivers/clocksource/arm_arch_timer.c | 10 ++ drivers/clocksource/tegra20_timer.c | 12 ++- drivers/clocksource/time-pistachio.c | 3 + drivers/clocksource/timer-sprd.c | 80 +++++++++++++++ drivers/clocksource/timer-ti-32k.c | 4 + include/linux/persistent_clock.h | 23 +++++ kernel/time/Kconfig | 4 + kernel/time/Makefile | 1 + kernel/time/alarmtimer.c | 4 + kernel/time/persistent_clock.c | 184 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ kernel/time/timekeeping.c | 19 +--- 18 files changed, 360 insertions(+), 95 deletions(-) create mode 100644 include/linux/persistent_clock.h create mode 100644 kernel/time/persistent_clock.c -- 1.7.9.5 -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-tegra" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html