On 05/27/2016 02:17 PM, Jon Hunter wrote: > > On 27/05/16 12:46, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote: >> On 05/27/2016 12:28 PM, Jon Hunter wrote: >>> Hi Krzysztof, >>> >>> On 27/05/16 09:37, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote: >>> >>> ... >>> >>>> Indeed I was struggling with similar issue in bq27x00_battery. The issue >>>> was introduced by... me :( when moving the ownership of power supply >>>> structure from driver to the core. However IMHO my change exposed the >>>> fundamental problem with power supply. >>>> >>>> Anyway a fix for this issue was: >>>> 7f1a57fdd6cb6e7b (power_supply: Fix possible NULL pointer dereference on >>>> early uevent) >>>> AFAIU, this fix no longer fixes all the issues, right? >>>> >>>> As for the fundamental problem, the power supply core should not call >>>> back the driver (get_property()) until the probe ends. Even if the >>>> di->bat was initialized, some other fields of driver could not be set >>>> yet. In general, the probe did not end so we should avoid calling driver >>>> internal functions. >>> >>> For my understanding, can you elaborate why the power-supply core should >>> not call back to the drivers ->get_property() before the probe ends? I >>> assume that registering the power-supply should be the last thing done >>> in the probe and so the power-supply should be configured at that point. >> >> It is not only about power supply but other resources allocated by the >> driver. If the power_supply_register() is a last call, then no problem. >> But if not, then these resources won't be available. >> >> Actually I exaggerated a little bit as a fundamental problem as this is >> quite common pattern. When driver provides something (like power supply) >> then after registration it should be ready for calls coming from the >> core or user space. It does not have to be power supply. It might be >> exposing sysfs entries or file operations (exposed before calling >> power_supply_register()). > > Right, exactly when you register with the power-supply core the device > better be ready so that handle any incoming calls. Yes, the unusual thing here is that the device is called back directly from the power_supply_register() call. > >>> The problems with the bq27xxx seem to stem from the periodic update of >>> the bq27xxx status and so it is not clear to me that this is a generic >>> problem for all power-supply devices. >> >> Initially, the generic problem was that the core would call back the >> driver from power_supply_register() in a synchronous way through >> power_supply_changed(). The commit 7f1a57fdd6c changed it to an >> asynchronous call. Here it looks like the same problem - the >> power_supply_register() calls thermal which calls >> thermal_zone_device_update() and we are back at the driver... before >> finishing power_supply_register() call. > > So I am still not convinced this is a generic problem but a problem with > the bq27xxx. In fact, I think that commit 7f1a57fdd6c could be avoided > if we did something like ... > > http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=146425896332433&w=2 > > AFAICT in most cases, in ->get_property() you should have no need to > access a driver's equivalent of di->bat, because you have already been > passed a pointer to this via the *psy argument. I agree that get_property() shouldn't access di->bat. However if it is not forbidden (at least by documentation) then someone might just do it because he does not know about such requirement. Best regards, Krzysztof -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-tegra" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html