On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 12:31:21PM +0100, Helge Deller wrote: > On 1/26/22 12:18, Javier Martinez Canillas wrote: > > On 1/26/22 11:59, Helge Deller wrote: > >> On 1/26/22 11:02, Andy Shevchenko wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > >>> P.S. For the record, I will personally NAK any attempts to remove that > >>> driver from the kernel. And this is another point why it's better not > >>> to be under the staging. > >> > >> I agree. Same as for me to NAK the disabling of fbcon's acceleration > >> features or even attempting to remove fbdev altogether (unless all > >> relevant drivers are ported to DRM). > >> > > > > But that will never happen if we keep moving the goal post. > > > > At some point new fbdev drivers should not be added anymore, otherwise > > the number of existing drivers that need conversion will keep growing. > > Good point, and yes you are right! > > I think the rule should be something like: > > New graphics devices (e.g. max. 3 years old from now) usually are > capable to be ported to DRM. > For those graphics cards we should put a hard stop and not include them > as new driver into the fbdev framework. Inclusion for those will only > happen as DRM driver. We made this rule 6 years ago already. thanks, greg k-h