Re: [PATCH v18 00/18] KVM RISC-V Support

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On Fri, 21 May 2021 10:47:51 PDT (-0700), Greg KH wrote:
On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 07:21:12PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
On 21/05/21 19:13, Palmer Dabbelt wrote:
> >
>
> I don't view this code as being in a state where it can be
> maintained, at least to the standards we generally set within the
> kernel.  The ISA extension in question is still subject to change, it
> says so right at the top of the H extension <https://github.com/riscv/riscv-isa-manual/blob/master/src/hypervisor.tex#L4>
>
>   {\bf Warning! This draft specification may change before being
> accepted as standard by the RISC-V Foundation.}

To give a complete picture, the last three relevant changes have been in
August 2019, November 2019 and May 2020.  It seems pretty frozen to me.

In any case, I think it's clear from the experience with Android that
the acceptance policy cannot succeed.  The only thing that such a policy
guarantees, is that vendors will use more out-of-tree code.  Keeping a
fully-developed feature out-of-tree for years is not how Linux is run.

> I'm not sure where exactly the line for real hardware is, but for
> something like this it would at least involve some chip that is
> widely availiable and needs the H extension to be useful

Anup said that "quite a few people have already implemented RISC-V
H-extension in hardware as well and KVM RISC-V works on real HW as well".
Those people would benefit from having KVM in the Linus tree.

Great, but is this really true?  If so, what hardware has this?  I have
a new RISC-V device right here next to me, what would I need to do to
see if this is supported in it or not?

You can probe the misa register, it should have the H bit set if it supports the H extension.

If this isn't in any hardware that anyone outside of
internal-to-company-prototypes, then let's wait until it really is in a
device that people can test this code on.

What's the rush to get this merged now if no one can use it?

thanks,

greg k-h




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