Re: linux: Goodbye from a Linux community volunteer
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- Subject: Re: linux: Goodbye from a Linux community volunteer
- From: Andreas Herrmann <aherrmann@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2024 09:59:53 +0200
- Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Serge Semin <fancer.lancer@xxxxxxxxx>, Jon Mason <jdmason@xxxxxxxx>, Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@xxxxxxxxx>, Allen Hubbe <allenbh@xxxxxxxxx>, ntb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Andy Shevchenko <andy@xxxxxxxxxx>, Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Kory Maincent <kory.maincent@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Cai Huoqing <cai.huoqing@xxxxxxxxx>, dmaengine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Mark Brown <broonie@xxxxxxxxxx>, linux-spi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Damien Le Moal <dlemoal@xxxxxxxxxx>, linux-ide@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "paulburton@xxxxxxxxxx" <paulburton@xxxxxxxxxx>, Thomas Bogendoerfer <tsbogend@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@xxxxxxxx>, "linux-mips@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <linux-mips@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@xxxxxxxxxx>, Manivannan Sadhasivam <manivannan.sadhasivam@xxxxxxxxxx>, Yoshihiro Shimoda <yoshihiro.shimoda.uh@xxxxxxxxxxx>, linux-pci <linux-pci@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "David S . Miller" <davem@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@xxxxxxxxxx>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@xxxxxxxxxx>, Andrew Lunn <andrew@xxxxxxx>, Russell King <linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@xxxxxxxxx>, Kelvin Cheung <keguang.zhang@xxxxxxxxx>, Yanteng Si <siyanteng@xxxxxxxxxxx>, netdev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Rob Herring <robh@xxxxxxxxxx>, Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@xxxxxxxxxx>, Guenter Roeck <linux@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, linux-hwmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Borislav Petkov <bp@xxxxxxxxx>, linux-edac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, linux-serial@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Andrew Halaney <ajhalaney@xxxxxxxxx>, Nikita Travkin <nikita@xxxxxxx>, Ivan Kokshaysky <ink@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Alexander Shiyan <shc_work@xxxxxxx>, Dmitry Kozlov <xeb@xxxxxxx>, Sergey Shtylyov <s.shtylyov@xxxxxx>, Evgeniy Dushistov <dushistov@xxxxxxx>, Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Sergio Paracuellos <sergio.paracuellos@xxxxxxxxx>, Nikita Shubin <nikita.shubin@xxxxxxxxxxx>, linux-renesas-soc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 05:58:45PM +0100, Jiaxun Yang wrote:
>
>
> 在2024年10月24日十月 下午5:27,James Bottomley写道:
> > On Thu, 2024-10-24 at 16:59 +0100, Jiaxun Yang wrote:
> [...]
>
> Hi James,
>
> >
> > It's Linux, so no official capacity at all. However, I am expressing
> > the views of a number of people I talked to but it's not fair of me to
> > name them.
>
> Fair enough, I was hoping that it's from Linux Foundation but it's still
> good news to me that it do represent some respectful individuals.
>
> >
> [...]
> >> How should we handle it?
> >
> > A big chunk of the reason it's taken so long just to get the above is
> > that the Lawyers (of which I'm not one) are still discussing the
> > specifics and will produce a much longer policy document later, so they
> > don't want to be drawn into questions like this. However, my non-
> > legal-advice rule of thumb that I'm applying until I hear otherwise is
> > not on the SDN list, not a problem.
>
> Thank you for sharing your insights. I'm looking forward to the document.
+1
> While I remain quite upset about how things were handled, your message has
> helped restore some of my confidence in the community.
+1
> I agree with Peter Cai's earlier comment that steps should be taken to address
> the harm caused by the initial reckless actions, particularly to those who were
> humiliated.
+1
> It is also important to put measures in place to prevent such drama from recurring.
> A formal procedure for handling urgent compliance requests may be a sensible step
> forward.
+1
> I hold our community in high regard and would be heartbreaking to see the reputation
> of the Linux Kernel undermined in such an unfortunate manner. I would appreciate it
> if you could convey those thoughts to the relevant individuals.
+1
--
Regards,
Andreas
PS: What people also tend to forget. No matter how worse it gets in
world affairs there always will come a time after a conflict. And
people with brains should look forward to such times and how they can
continue to work together then.
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