On 5/29/24 3:07 AM, Nuno Sá wrote: > On Sun, 2024-05-26 at 18:35 +0100, Conor Dooley wrote: >> It might be easy to do it this way right now, but be problematic for a >> future device or if someone wants to chuck away the ADI provided RTL and >> do their own thing for this device. Really it just makes me wonder if >> what's needed to describe more complex data pipelines uses an of_graph, >> just like how video pipelines are handled, rather than the implementation >> of io-backends that don't really seem to model the flow of data. >> > > Yeah, backends is more for devices/soft-cores that extend the functionality of the > device they are connected too. Like having DACs/ADCs hdl cores for connecting to high > speed controllers. Note that in some cases they also manipulate or even create data > but since they fit in IIO, having things like the DMA property in the hdl binding was > fairly straight. > > Maybe having an offload dedicated API (through spi) to get/share a DMA handle would > be acceptable. Then we could add support to "import" it in the IIO core. Then it > would be up to the controller to accept or not to share the handle (in some cases the > controller could really want to have the control of the DMA transfers). I could see this working for some SPI controllers, but for the AXI SPI Engine + DMA currently, the DMA has a fixed word size, so can't be used as a generic DMA with arbitrary SPI xfers. For example, if the HDL is compiled with a 32-bit word size, then even if we are reading 16-bit sample data, the DMA is going to put it in a 32-bit slot. So one could argue that this is still doing some data manipulation similar to the CRC checker example. > > Not familiar enough with of_graph so can't argue about it but likely is something > worth looking at. > > - Nuno Sá >>> I did try implementing something using graph bindings when I first started working on this, but it didn't seem to really give us any extra useful information. It was just describing connections (endpoints) that I thought we could just implicitly assume. After this discussion though, maybe worth a second look. I'll have to think about it more.