On Thursday 02 March 2017 07:59 PM, Boris Brezillon wrote: > On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 19:24:43 +0530 > Vignesh R <vigneshr@xxxxxx> wrote: > >>>>>> >>>>> Not really, I am debugging another issue with UBIFS on DRA74 EVM (ARM >>>>> cortex-a15) wherein pages allocated by vmalloc are in highmem region >>>>> that are not addressable using 32 bit addresses and is backed by LPAE. >>>>> So, a 32 bit DMA cannot access these buffers at all. >>>>> When dma_map_sg() is called to map these pages by spi_map_buf() the >>>>> physical address is just truncated to 32 bit in pfn_to_dma() (as part of >>>>> dma_map_sg() call). This results in random crashes as DMA starts >>>>> accessing random memory during SPI read. >>>>> >>>>> IMO, there may be more undiscovered caveat with using dma_map_sg() for >>>>> non kmalloc'd buffers and its better that spi-nor starts handling these >>>>> buffers instead of relying on spi_map_msg() and working around every >>>>> time something pops up. >>>>> >>>> Ok, I had a closer look at the SPI framework, and it seems there's a >>>> way to tell to the core that a specific transfer cannot use DMA >>>> (->can_dam()). The first thing you should do is fix the spi-davinci >>>> driver: >>>> >>>> 1/ implement ->can_dma() >>>> 2/ patch davinci_spi_bufs() to take the decision to do DMA or not on a >>>> per-xfer basis and not on a per-device basis >>>> >> >> This would lead to poor perf defeating entire purpose of using DMA. > > Hm, that's not really true. For all cases where you have a DMA-able > buffer it would still use DMA. For other cases (like the UBI+SPI-NOR > case we're talking about here), yes, it will be slower, but slower is > still better than buggy. > So, in any case, I think the fixes pointed by Frode are needed. > Yes, but still bounce buffer does help in perf improvement over PIO. >> >>>> Then we can start thinking about how to improve perfs by using a bounce >>>> buffer for large transfers, but I'm still not sure this should be done >>>> at the MTD level... >> >> If its at SPI level, then I guess each individual drivers which cannot >> handle vmalloc'd buffers will have to implement bounce buffer logic. > > Well, that's my opinion. The only one that can decide when to do > PIO, when to use DMA or when to use a bounce buffer+DMA is the SPI > controller. > If you move this logic to the SPI NOR layer, you'll have to guess what > is the best approach, and I fear the decision will be wrong on some > platforms (leading to perf degradation). > > You're mentioning code duplication in each SPI controller, I agree, > this is far from ideal, but what you're suggesting is not necessarily > better. What if another SPI user starts passing vmalloc-ed buffers to > the SPI controller? You'll have to duplicate the bounce-buffer logic in > this user as well. > Hmm... Yes, there are ways to by pass SPI core. >> >> Or SPI core can be extended in a way similar to this RFC. That is, SPI >> master driver will set a flag to request SPI core to use of bounce >> buffer for vmalloc'd buffers. And spi_map_buf() just uses bounce buffer >> in case buf does not belong to kmalloc region based on the flag. > > That's a better approach IMHO. Note that the decision should not only > be based on the buffer type, but also on the transfer length and/or > whether the controller supports transferring non physically contiguous > buffers. > > Maybe we should just extend ->can_dma() to let the core know if it > should use a bounce buffer. > Yes, this is definitely needed. ->can_dma() currently returns bool. We need a better interface that returns different error codes for restriction on buffer length vs buffer type (I dont see any appropriate error codes) or make ->can_dma() return flag asking for bounce buffer. SPI controller drivers may use cache_is_*() and virt_addr_valid() to decide whether or not request bounce buffer. > Regarding the bounce buffer allocation logic, I'm not sure how it > should be done. The SPI user should be able to determine a max transfer > len (at least this is the case for SPI NORs) and inform the SPI layer > about this boundary so that the SPI core can allocate a bounce buffer > of this size. But we also have limitations at the SPI master level > (->max_transfer_size(), ->max_message_size()). > Again, I guess only SPI controller can suggest the appropriate size of bounce buffer based on its internal constraints and use cases that its known to support. -- Regards Vignesh -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-spi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html