Hello All, I thought I squirrelled away a message that someone had posted quite recently of how to get a system where both screen readers were working together. However, I can't find it. Could that person repost or PM me? The debian install went well using speakup but it boots into Mate and orca handles the graphical login. Then I loose all speech. I do have very little installed on the system and don't know orca very well. I'd rather use the console but need to use the graphical interface occasionally. I'm sure the post I dreamt of or it was posted here would help very much. I don't mind reinstalling and just get speakup well established. Then install the GUI. But I'd like to get both working. Thanks, Gena M0EBP