Re: speakup crashing

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Zookia: I invite you to post your scripts here on the list please. I
know a lot of folks that have faught valiantly trying to get their
systems to come up talking unsuccessfully.

I myself prefer that things that can, use userspace instead of root,
other than speakup_soft....

  Kirk

On Sun, 18 Aug 2024, Jookia wrote:

Ah, people don't have that?

I have systemd units and udev rules that let you run espeakup system-wide at boot,
including logging in as root in a TTY and with GUI support.

On Sat, Aug 17, 2024 at 05:18:53PM -0400, Kirk Reiser wrote:
That is probably a good idea if you are lucky enough to be on a system
 which actually starts speakup on boot up with the systemd service
 files. On one of my systems that actually works but on my other
 systems they don't come up talking.  I have a speakup-start script
 which sets all the appropriate files to userland permissions and runs
 espeakup in userspace.

I've noticed there have been a number of folks that have also
complained of espeakup not starting correctly on boot.

I will also post that script if anyone wishes but if you have a system
which does work as planned then definitely do it as jookia suggests.

  Kirk

On Sun, 18 Aug 2024, Jookia wrote:

On systemd system you should use

systemctl restart espeakup

or

systemctl kill --signal=9 espeakup
systemctl restart espeakup

This will ensure the service manager knows what's happening.

On Sat, Aug 17, 2024 at 04:46:34PM -0400, Kirk Reiser wrote:
Okay, try this it's basically a one liner. The reason you can't
restart espeakup is because it doesn't actually die, so it has to be
killed off before restarting it.

```
#!/bin/bash

killall -9 espeakup; espeakup

```

My bash script is named respeakup but you can name it anything you like, of course.

  Kirk

On Sat, 17 Aug 2024, Jude DaShiell wrote:

It's entirely possible espeakup is crashing.  When this happens, I can't
restart espeakup either so end up having to reboot to regain control of
the system.


--
Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com>
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo.
Please use in that order."
Ed Howdershelt 1940.

On Sat, 17 Aug 2024, Kirk Reiser wrote:

Hi Jude: This may be a silly question, but are you sure it's speakup
crashing? Often, espeakup dies here and so I have a simple script to
kill it off and restart espeakup. I haven''t had speakup itself hang
the system for quite a while.

  Kirk

On Sat, 17 Aug 2024, Jude DaShiell wrote:

Every so often speakup crashes on my computer.
I am running a recent version of Jenux so systemd is in use here.
What I would like to know is a procedure once the system has been rebooted
to locate any crash messages speakup may have left in logs.  pipewire is
running the sound system along with alsa here and there's necessary
pulseaudio artifacts pipewire uses on the system.


--
Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com>
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo.
Please use in that order."
Ed Howdershelt 1940.











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