Hi, Didier:
Short of installing Slint--which I'm still considering, but I hesitate
to adopt yet another learning curve for package management ...
Rebuilding pcaudiolib without pulse support sounds intriguing. I will
investigate, because ldd is definitely reporting dependency on .
libpulse-simple.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpulse-simple.so.0
(0x00007fa62a433000)
libpulse.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpulse.so.0
(0x00007fa62a3de000)
libpulsecommon-15.0.so =>
/usr/lib/pulseaudio/libpulsecommon-15.0.so
(0x00007fa62a355000)
Best,
Janina
Didier Spaier writes:
> Hi Kirk and Janina:
>
> In Slint at time of writing we have:
> alsa-lib-1.2.5
> espeakup-0.9.0
> espeak-ng-git2b77dd27
> linux-5.3.13
> pcaudiolib-gita41d46e
> sonic-gitba331411
>
> No issue with espeakup, neither that I observed using it nor reported by
> users.
> This makes me assume that the issue doesn't come from upstream.
>
> FYI, Hhere are the binary dependencies, according to ldd:
> dance[~]$ ldd /usr/bin/espeakup
>
> linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007ffe7059d000)
> libespeak-ng.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libespeak-ng.so.1 (0x00007f284e5a5000)
> libasound.so.2 => /usr/lib64/libasound.so.2 (0x00007f284e37b000)
> libm.so.6 => /lib64/libm.so.6 (0x00007f284e072000)
> libpthread.so.0 => /lib64/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007f284de55000)
> libc.so.6 => /lib64/libc.so.6 (0x00007f284da8c000)
> libpcaudio.so.0 => /usr/lib64/../lib64/libpcaudio.so.0 (0x00007f284e59c000)
> libsonic.so.0 => /usr/lib64/../lib64/libsonic.so.0 (0x00007f284e596000)
> libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib64/../lib64/libstdc++.so.6 (0x00007f284d710000)
> libgcc_s.so.1 => /usr/lib64/../lib64/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x00007f284d4f9000)
> libdl.so.2 => /lib64/libdl.so.2 (0x00007f284d2f5000)
> librt.so.1 => /lib64/librt.so.1 (0x00007f284d0ed000)
> /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f284e480000)
>
> I don't know if that comes into play, but in Slint we don't redirect the
> sound
> streams from alsa to pulseaudio, rather the opposite.
>
> It could matter what I read in our ChangeLog at:
> https://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-14.2.1/ChangeLog.txt
> quoted below:
> Tuesday 29 June 2021
> pcaudiolib-gita41d46e-x86_64-2slint: Rebuilt
> Built without pulseaudio to avoid starting pulseaudio as root through
> espeakup. Thanks to Tony Seth for the heads-up.
>
> so I have included these configure options for pcaudiolib:
> --with-alsa
> --without-pulseaudio
>
> Cheers,
> Didier
>
> Le 18/09/2021 à 15:10, Janina Sajka a écrit :
> > Hi, Kirk:
> >
> > I'm on Arch, not Debian, but I've had broken Espeakup ever since
> > alsa-lib-1.2.5 showed up. Since then Espeakup has been upversioned to
> > 0.90, but this has not fixed things for me, though apparently it has for
> > Alexander now maintaning Espeakup.
> >
> > I currently have two functional Linux machines, both fully upgraded as
> > of just about half an hour ago except as described below.
> >
> > The newer hardware will run by hand with the command: 'espeakup -d', but
> > it's highly brittle and prone to crash the system so that a three finger
> > salute is needed.
> >
> > If I want console access on this 2020 era box, I have to turn to fenrir,
> > which I'm just not as comfortable with--but that's another story.
> >
> > My older machine is prevented by my /etc/pacman.conf from updating
> > alsa-lib and espeakup, and it runs just fine.
> >
> > So, my suggestion is back off to the latest alsa-lib-1.2.4, and the
> > latest espeakup-0.8 you have, and you should be fine until someone
> > figures out what's really going on.
> >
> > For anyone running Arch you want the following in your /etc/pacman.conf:
> >
> > IgnorePkg =espeakup
> > IgnorePkg =alsa-lib
> >
> > If you've already updated your Arch beyond these versions, you can
> > downgrade. You'll find a cache of previous versions in:
> >
> > /var/cache/pacman/pkg/
> > Just cd on over there as root and check what you have with a command
> > like:
> >
> > ls -1 alsa-lib* espeakup*
> >
> > You can then downversion with pacman like this:
> >
> > pacman -U ./[filename]
> >
> > where [filename] is the full name you got from ls. I recommend using the
> > Speakup clipboard to get the command right.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Janina
> >
> >
> > Kirk Reiser writes:
> > > Hi folks: Does anyone have espeakup running on debian sid with
> > > libasound2 1.2.5? After I upgraded a few days ago I lost my speech
> > > output. I have built espeakup and espeak-ng from the current repo on
> > > them with no joy either.
> > >
> > > Curious minds and all that type thing.
> > >
> > > Kirk
> > >
> >
--
Janina Sajka
https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka
Linux Foundation Fellow
Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org
The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
