A key commander is different then a shortcut key and worrks only if voiceover is being used. In the voiceover utility there is a an area to set key commanders. These allow listing a series of mac and voiceover commands in the order one wantss them performed and assign that commander to a key combination. For example, the read fromtop of screen has the three commands assigned to option+r. The os10 comes with a few already defined. Turn permission to use apple scripts on, then option+t will speak time and date. That key commander runs an apple script that performs that function. On Fri, 18 Dec 2020, Reece O'Bryan wrote: > I definitely agree voiceover is superior with the selection of voices and the customization they are from my own limited experience so far. If I understand you correctly, you created essentially a keyboard shortcut that does exactly what I have been trying to do? How can you do this? > > > Thank you, > > -Reece > > > On Dec 18, 2020, at 12:01 PM, dan d. <dandunfee@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > I use voiceover in the mac terminal, even as I write this. The quality and intelligibility and control of the voices is far superior to > > anything one can get with a cconsole screen reader, that is what keeps me from using linux. alone. > > > > There are a ffew prior selections required, the most imporant is to interact with the terminal; mac users will know what that means. At that > > point one can use the standard voiceover cursor commands to read the screen systematically. Some, like read screen from the top reqqquires > > two commands because one doesn't want the title line reade everytime. One command goes to the top of the screen, the second goes down one > > line and begins reading. I used a key commander to combine both steps and assigned it to a single key combination. > > > >> On Thu, 17 Dec 2020, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> > >> Hey, > >> > >> A few thoughts about the terminal in Mac OS. > >> > >> There is a screen reader called TDSR, which can be found here on Github <https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr>. It has better Terminal support than VoiceOver, though takes some getting used to. > >> > >> As far as your mac and a hardware speech synthesizer, using it with a virtual machine is your only option. VoiceOver doesn???t support hardware synths at all. Fortunately, if you use it with a virtual machine, which I???ve done before, it should work fairly well. > >> > >> That being said, TDSR is worth a look if you???re open to a lighter-weight solution. > >> Best, > >> Zack. > >>> On Dec 17, 2020, at 12:37 PM, Reece O'Bryan <reece.obryan@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> > >>> Great! Seems to be the same process as connecting a network adapter to a virtual machine. > >>> That is a little discouraging I can???t compile on my MacBook. The native terminal doesn???t seem to be accessible. I can???t read the output line by line, only the entire output from top to bottom of the terminal. I could be missing something, I am still quite new to voiceover. Although I have talked with a couple of MacBook users that have used voiceover for quite a few years, they are not familiar with terminal, but still could not figure out how to navigate it easily either. Maybe the hardware synthesizer could help there. (?) > >>> > >>> Thank you, > >>> > >>> -Reece > >>> > >>>>> On Dec 17, 2020, at 3:27 PM, Gregory Nowak <greg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 03:00:52PM -0500, Reece O'Bryan wrote: > >>>>> Is it possible to compile speak up on my MacBook? > >>>> > >>>> No. > >>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 03:12:54PM -0500, Reece O'Bryan wrote: > >>>>> Just to confirm, I???m going to need a serial adapter to plug in to my > >>>> USB hub connected to my MacBook, then connect a hardware synthesizer > >>>> to the cereal. > >>>> > >>>> Correct. > >>>> > >>>>> Doing it this way would I be able to use the hardware synthesizer inside of virtualBox running Debian and Speakup? I assume that it should in theory, but if not because of the virtualization, then plan B is doing the exact same thing while booting from something like Ubuntu on the USB. > >>>> > >>>> Yes, that should work, though I haven't done that in a while. You have > >>>> to options here. First option is to define a serial port which would > >>>> appear in your guest as a physical serial port, and you would set that > >>>> up to interface to your USB serial port on the host. The second option > >>>> is to dirrectly pass the USB serial adapter through to the guest. 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