Hi Again, Didier: Speaking of late Saturday, I suspect it's Sunday for you by now! <grin> I think you're correct that I've been misunderstanding libao. In any case having the plughw:1 in the alsa stanza wasn't harming anything. I'm currently booted with speech-dispatcher using also, so that directive may actually be working. It's also possible, of course, that it's just the next available card, because espeakup is definitely using plughw:0, so :0 is locked up tight for espeak's use. That makes :1 the next available card. In my /etc/asound.conf I have the default set for hw:2, because linphone is no longer allowing me to specify the particular alsa device that is my headset. Best, Janina Didier Spaier writes: > Hi Janina > > Setting these two directives like this in speechd.conf won't ever work, > I think: > AudioOutputMethod "libao" > AudioALSADevice "plughw:1" > > In the first one you tell to use the libao audio output, but > the second one is only used if you use the alsa audio output instead > if I understand well. > > If initially the card # 1 used with speech-dispatcher thte is because > of some other setting, I think. I don't know which one, you will > need to a look ayour Arch configuration and sercice files to > find oouT. > > So if you use the libao output (libao using in turn its alsa backend, > I assume), you will have to find another way to set the card to use > for speech managed by speech-dispatcher, than to do this setting in > speechd.conf. > > One of the possibility would be a setting in /etc/asound.conf or > in ~/.asoundrc > > Oh, and you can't take the config file I sent you as is and hope > it will work in Arch, as the settings in it have to be read by > some script managing espeakup. This is the case in Slint but > not in Arch. So if you want to use these settings in Arch you > will have to find out by why script they should be used, > and maybe modify it to read them. > > I can't resist to suggest that you try Slint instead <smile>. > > Best, > > Didier > > PS I received the answer from Cris while typing. But I don't > think our answers contradict each other, fortunately. > > On 23/03/2019 20:20, Janina Sajka wrote: > > Hi, Didier: > > > > Once again you're providing some very helpful guidance. Thank you so > > very much for that. > > > > Yes, I'm using arch, but I'm the other way around from what you're > > saying. I'm using speech-dispatcher-git, but only the espeakup release > > at the moment. The reason is that the current speech-dispatcher relase > > isn't correctly accepting an alsa card designation, i.e. it won't honor > > these two directives in speechd.conf: > > > > > > > I am now going to put your espeakup script in place on my machine and > > try a reboot. I will report. > > > > Thank you for this script. I wasn't aware all these directives could be > > included. This should solve my problem, I hope! <grin> > > > > Janina > > > > Didier Spaier writes: > >> Hi Janina, > >> > >> IIRC you are running Arch. Right? > >> > >> If yes, looking at the PKGBUILD I see that it grabs a snapshot from > >> git at the commit d25ed10d dated 22 nov. 2018: > >> https://github.com/brailcom/speechd/commit/d25ed10d5ede8c0f747211928fbd5f742d753556 > >> > >> So I am puzzled that you just get it, knowing the PKGBUILD was last updated > >> on 24. Nov. 2018... > >> > >> So, I can't see a reason for speech-dispatcher be in concern for an issue > >> occurring this week. > >> > >> And espeakup-git (if that's what you use) was last updated on > >> 2019-01-03 18:14. > >> > >> So I am puzzled. I don't know what happened recently, but this issue should be > >> reported to your distribution rather than to upstream IMHO. > >> > >> Also, a tip: you can set ALSA_CARD before starting espeakup, it will > >> honor this setting. This how we now do in Slint, cf. attached file > >> /etc/espeakup.conf. > >> > >> To know which files are involved in Arch, have a look at the bottom > >> of https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/PKGBUILD?h=espeakup-git > >> > >> Sorry I can't provide further guidance, not running Arch. > >> > >> Best, > >> > >> Didier > >> > >> > >> On 22/03/2019 15:43, Janina Sajka wrote: > >>> I tend to update globally about once a week, usually on Fridays. With > >>> today's update of Speech-Dispatcher-git Espeakup is broken. > >>> > >>> 1.) I boot to a console login. Works as expected. Speakup speaks > >>> with Espeak on hw:0. Yes, I'm using alsa, not pulse. > >>> > >>> 2.) I launch the graphical desktop with startx and Orca comes up > >>> over Speech-Dispatcher using libao on hw:1 as specified in speechd.conf. > >>> > >>> 3.) Switching back to any console, speech is gone. Doing a systemctl > >>> restart espeakup puts speech on hw:2. > >>> > >>> This is bonkers. > >>> > >>> PS: Isn't it time we could control what device the soft synth driver > >>> speaks to with a configuration option? Perhaps an additional parameter > >>> in /etc/conf.d/espeakup? > >>> > >>> Or is it supposed to be in /etc/speakup/espeakup? > >>> > >>> Both those configs say basically the same thing, but they're not > >>> symlinked. Why? > >>> > > -- Janina Sajka Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup