I hadn't thought of it until now, but I use Startpage.com for my search engine, because Google can't track your searches, and they have the same privacy with startmail. go to: http://www.startpage.com/ and make it your search engine, and there is information for startmail there too. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Nestrud" <ccn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 10:43 AM Subject: Re: command line email clients and gmail.com I've had good luck with Fastmail, www.fastmail.com. Two-factor is available but not nandatory. Option of per-app passwords so if someone gets the password you use for mutt, they can't access the other features of your account. I'm using it successfully for sending and receiving mail using mutt under Linux, Outlook under iOS, and the standard mail program on iPhone. Chris On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 08:17:21AM -0700, Don Raikes wrote: > So if gmail is not a viable option what are others using instead? > -----Original Message----- > From: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 7:22 AM > To: Chuck Hallenbeck <chuckhallenbeck@xxxxxxxxx>; Speakup is a screen > review system for Linux. <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: command line email clients and gmail.com > > I wasn't able to do so without a huge amount of inconvenience. Here's the > rest of that story too. I went as far as enabling two-step authentication > in February of 2018. Last week I tried logging into my google account. > My password was complex and 20 characters in length the last time I logged > into that account successfully. Last week the password had been changed > and whoever did that had it shortened to 14 characters. I ended up > deleting my account. If I ever create another google account I will not > use any of google's enhanced security features since all of them only > provide the authorized users a huge amount of hassle and are trivial for > hackers to crack. > > On Sun, 10 Jun 2018, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote: > > > Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 20:14:48 > > From: Chuck Hallenbeck <chuckhallenbeck@xxxxxxxxx> > > To: "speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Subject: command line email clients and gmail.com > > > > Hi folks, > > > > On my archlinux system with its command line environment, I have > > three email clients able to send mail directly to my gmail smtp server > > at port 587. > > > > 1. mutt with msmtp. > > > > 2. alpine > > > > 3. edbrowse. > > > > All three methods work only when my google account security settings > > have enabled something called "Allow access by less secure apps. > > > > Recently I have been asked by google to disable that feature for > > security reasons, but doing so prevents my outgoing mail from being > > accepted by smtp.gmail.com. > > > > Anybody else able to use gmail.com with that security feature > > disabled, as google advises? Suggestions appreciated. > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__linux-2Dspeakup.org_cgi-2Dbin_mailman_listinfo_speakup&d=DwIGaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=RSYNyNFr7Oj1BRE0qW_8pVA2z0qhUeWtOTBuXmZp9uE&m=9Y8i54Ecao5MzVdHocqncpqXwRPndS5BionYcK18yLw&s=LXtrQDl9Q334IQEp_JmRIyVJ1a6O790k7yV35vnOXn0&e= > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
